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Azure Knight wrote:
shugo_lover wrote:think we all crawled out of the ocean
That's... what evolution is...

I just thought about that....
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Actually, according to modern interpretations of physics, the existence of multiple universes is practically guaranteed. If we were ever able to prove that there was only the one universe, it might be the best evidence for the existence of God ever.
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I doubt we can prove how many universes are there. I think Heaven exist in the cosmos somewhere. The only thing you can do is search for your own truth. I don't trust many churches due to them being corrupt. I can't remember what verse at the moment but when that potters clay becomes miry clay then the church gets corrupt. The potters clay represents God's church right. Miry clay is not pure.
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Heaven can't exist in the physical cosmos by definition. Heaven is biblically defined as "with God", so unless you think we can go visit him with a spaceship, then Heaven is outside of the universe.
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This brings up another interesting topic. What if 'Heaven' is just another universe? If souls are proven to be existent, then it could be possible that - upon death of a human body - a soul will transgress the barrier between two universes, and assimilate itself with something/ someone else, in a different universe.
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Hm if there is more than one universe I wonder what would everything be called as a whole. The only way we would know about the soul thing is if we die.
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zaseo wrote:Hm if there is more than one universe I wonder what would everything be called as a whole. The only way we would know about the soul thing is if we die.
We exist in Universe A. This is crummy Universe 1.
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Everything in it is called the same thing it's called in this universe only it is followed by "1."
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What if there is a whole different world we go to? To me that makes a lot of sense then just thinking about stuff that exists in this universe or what ever.
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Only God knows the secrets of the universe. Well that why I believe. Some stuff might not be for us to know. The more you know the more you don't know.
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I annoys me. Scientists think they have to know everything and find out everything. When half of it were not even suppost to know about.
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shugo_lover wrote:I annoys me. Scientists think they have to know everything and find out everything. When half of it were not even suppost to know about.
Well, that's kind of their job... that's what science is. Discovering and explaining the unknown.
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Azure Knight wrote:
shugo_lover wrote:I annoys me. Scientists think they have to know everything and find out everything. When half of it were not even suppost to know about.
Well, that's kind of their job... that's what science is. Discovering and explaining the unknown.
True but....I dunno...I obviously make no sense, when in my head it makes a lot of sence.
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You do realize the attitude you're proposing is dangerous as hell, right?

Did you know that in the Middle Ages, doctors weren't allowed to open someone up to perform surgery or study the living body, because it was something only God was meant to know? They couldn't even look through corpses.

Imagine how many people died because of that.
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AuraTwilight wrote:You do realize the attitude you're proposing is dangerous as hell, right?

Did you know that in the Middle Ages, doctors weren't allowed to open someone up to perform surgery or study the living body, because it was something only God was meant to know? They couldn't even look through corpses.

Imagine how many people died because of that.
Let this be proof that all knowledge has use =_='...
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Speaking of medical stuff I wonder why people get so addicted to drugs. LOL don't people notice the warnings on tv, and that drugs can only do so much. If won't be a cure for things like AIDS because as long as you can treat people you make money. If everyone got cured from it then overtime money would be lost.

Most things can be avoid if people take care of themselves. Eating right, exercise, and natural cures work like a charm.
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zaseo wrote:Speaking of medical stuff I wonder why people get so addicted to drugs. LOL don't people notice the warnings on tv, and that drugs can only do so much. If won't be a cure for things like AIDS because as long as you can treat people you make money. If everyone got cured from it then overtime money would be lost.

Most things can be avoid if people take care of themselves. Eating right, exercise, and natural cures work like a charm.

They get addicted because they like the feeling it gives them.
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Plus, if you mean durgs like tobacco and marjiuana and the like,

it's not the idea of addicted to drugs on thier own free-will, its usually the substance in the drugs. Haven't you ever looked a cigarette? It's the nictoine inside the tobacco that gets them hooked
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Pharmaceutical drugs kill if they are used too much. I fine it ironic how every ad on tv you here the warnings. It is best to avoid take pharmaceutical drugs if you can. The drugs like lsd, meth, etc will damage someone very quickly, and kill them.
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It's because our thoughts and actions are controlled by chemical impulses. We're basically a big machine designed to "Find ways to feel good. Avoid feeling bad."

Drugs make you feel good without having to do work, and most drugs burn you out a little so that not doing them makes you Feel Bad. Thus the brain is rewired to "Seek Drug" in the same way other people "Seek Food, Seek Sex, Seek Oxygen."
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Remember kids Hugs not drugs!
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