Does ANYONE feel that the first games were better?

DarkAzureKnite · Post by **DarkAzureKnite** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:09 am

i like g.u. vol.1 because:
1:the broad sword
2:arena
3:just plain PKKing in the feilds
4:he has skeith,who dosen't wanna battle using skeith
5:no illegal items plot in the way(i saw the terminal disk stuff on youtube and nope avatar's are not illegal to have,apparently)
6:battle system

the only things i don't like is the steam bike, the avatar battles was way to easy but we won't get good avatar battles until vol.2 since well cyber connect 2 is just mean to skeith

and it felt like we were just playing a tortural(don't care for grammer)than a battle from what i have seen in vol.2

Hachibi · Post by **Hachibi** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:14 am

DarkAzureKnite wrote: ... it felt like we were just playing a tortural(don't care for grammer)than a battle from what i have seen in vol.2

What have you seen??

PK Murderer Nickey · Post by **PK Murderer Nickey** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:24 am

My View point: Mix things up.

What they could have done: They could have brought back the Crest Ability system and mixed it up with the customization system.

Instead of constantly going around killing enemies for increasing skill points, they could have introduced schools based off of the Three Tribes of The World, and an AP system where you could spread the knowledge through your arts and spells.

Make more areas. I'd love to see a Dark element themed Wasteland or a decieving meadow of light.

Leave the names of the weapons alone.

DarkAzureKnite · Post by **DarkAzureKnite** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:37 am

Hachibi wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote: ... it felt like we were just playing a tortural(don't care for grammer)than a battle from what i have seen in vol.2

What have you seen??

lets see i have actully seen a full fight between skeith vs. corbenik
and a little bit of the giant fish aida thing
thats it unless i count official game trailers
i sreally shuldn't do this but hell with it
heres the links of the skeith vs. corbenik i found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLo7WyMIMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLeQZfisxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x27C8BMyXcM
i know bad quality

Hachibi · Post by **Hachibi** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:42 am

DarkAzureKnite wrote:
Hachibi wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote: ... it felt like we were just playing a tortural(don't care for grammer)than a battle from what i have seen in vol.2

What have you seen??
lets see i have actully seen a full fight between skeith vs. corbenik
and a little bit of the giant fish aida thing
thats it unless i count official game trailers
i sreally shuldn't do this but hell with it
heres the links of the skeith vs. corbenik i found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLo7WyMIMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLeQZfisxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x27C8BMyXcM
i know bad quality

What isn't bad quality that's on youtube?

Mellow Grunty · Post by **Mellow Grunty** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:46 am

Hachibi wrote:Sorry, just something i say when people make a point that i feel like they won in the conversation. Don't take much stock in it.

Hachibi wrote:What have you seen??

DarkAzureKnite · Post by **DarkAzureKnite** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:49 am

Hachibi wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote:
Hachibi wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote: ... it felt like we were just playing a tortural(don't care for grammer)than a battle from what i have seen in vol.2

What have you seen??
lets see i have actully seen a full fight between skeith vs. corbenik
and a little bit of the giant fish aida thing
thats it unless i count official game trailers
i sreally shuldn't do this but hell with it
heres the links of the skeith vs. corbenik i found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLo7WyMIMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLeQZfisxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x27C8BMyXcM
i know bad quality

What isn't bad quality that's on youtube?

the file on youtube that was done by video camera and it was sorta blurry but still awsome though
my username is meganerd 9 if anyone cares which i doubt

Mellow Grunty · Post by **Mellow Grunty** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:52 am

DarkAzureKnite wrote:
Hachibi wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote:
Hachibi wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote: ... it felt like we were just playing a tortural(don't care for grammer)than a battle from what i have seen in vol.2

What have you seen??
lets see i have actully seen a full fight between skeith vs. corbenik
and a little bit of the giant fish aida thing
thats it unless i count official game trailers
i sreally shuldn't do this but hell with it
heres the links of the skeith vs. corbenik i found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLo7WyMIMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLeQZfisxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x27C8BMyXcM
i know bad quality

What isn't bad quality that's on youtube?
i'm talking about the file on youtube that was done by video camera and it was sorta blurry but still awsome though

Giant quote pyramid of d0owm.
He meant that almost all the videos on Youtube are bad quality. :P

Hachibi · Post by **Hachibi** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:53 am

He meant that almost all the videos on Youtube are bad quality. :P

Exactly. oh man, this has gotton so off topic. Don't kill me!!

DarkAzureKnite · Post by **DarkAzureKnite** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:56 am

Mellow Grunty wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote:
Hachibi wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote:
Hachibi wrote:
DarkAzureKnite wrote: ... it felt like we were just playing a tortural(don't care for grammer)than a battle from what i have seen in vol.2

What have you seen??
lets see i have actully seen a full fight between skeith vs. corbenik
and a little bit of the giant fish aida thing
thats it unless i count official game trailers
i sreally shuldn't do this but hell with it
heres the links of the skeith vs. corbenik i found on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLo7WyMIMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLeQZfisxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x27C8BMyXcM
i know bad quality

What isn't bad quality that's on youtube?
i'm talking about the file on youtube that was done by video camera and it was sorta blurry but still awsome though
Giant quote pyramid of d0owm.
He meant that almost all the videos on Youtube are bad quality.

i noticed when i read his post correctly

, i didn't have my glasses on, i edited my post when i read it right sorry

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:11 pm

Deuz M.A. wrote:
laysh wrote:I personally like G.U. better. I guess its the characters they seem to have more depth in them. As well being darker.
Is it really that they are deeper? or just angstier?

While it cannot be argued that the characters in GU are not more flushed out than in .hack, I don't think they are as deep as everyone would like to believe.

Like Maive said they show more emotion but also the characters have reason to be there. In the past .hack// games the extra characters where just there for ppl who's fav. characters where of sign. This one they actually have a reason to be there even Piros. There storys are more involved and deeper to the storyline. As well there are more plot twists and deception.

Hachibi · Post by **Hachibi** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:26 pm

what's with the weird looking sweatdrops?? those are just weird. they should have kept those away from the game. Far FAR away. Or, they should have made them look like the game graphics.

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:34 pm

but it makes it more anime style.

Hachibi · Post by **Hachibi** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:36 pm

I know, but maybe they could have done a better job with them

Erranty · Post by **Erranty** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:46 pm

Alright, lets compare:

R:1- 8 types of areas, 6 types of dungeons, wep. upgrade-Moniseur

R:2- 6 types of areas, 2 types of dungeons, wep. upgrade-Alchemy+items

R:1- 4 games- minimum game time total 70 hours (all 4 games)

R:2- 3 games- minimum game time total 45 hours (all 3 games)

R:1 VS. R:2

Graphics: R:2 (tecnicality)
Areas to Explore: R:1
Diverseness: R:2 (beast ppl are legal, but was hurt area wise)

Please contine the comparisons.

Essence of Transcendence · Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:54 pm

Erranty wrote:Alright, lets compare:

R:1- 8 types of areas, 6 types of dungeons, wep. upgrade-Moniseur

R:2- 6 types of areas, 2 types of dungeons, wep. upgrade-Alchemy+items

R:1- 4 games- minimum game time total 70 hours (all 4 games)

R:2- 3 games- minimum game time total 45 hours (all 3 games)

R:1 VS. R:2

Graphics: R:2 (tecnicality)
Areas to Explore: R:1
Diverseness: R:2 (beast ppl are legal, but was hurt area wise)

Please contine the comparisons.

well i do agree and also i would like to say that in the first series you hade more freedom to level up and get level 99 weapns at level 50 but you get to have 4 diffrent weapons in the second series. truly i think that there are tradeoffs between the games and that is why i still play both

Tolby · Post by **Tolby** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:46 pm

Bryce_P wrote:to answer your question, no...i don't believe anyone does..

You believe wrong.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:00 pm

Im not gonna say they were "better" but I will say the 4 part series felt like a real mmorpg and broke more grounds than GU has.

Suffice to say I would prob like playing the old world versus the new.

shiroi · Post by **shiroi** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:06 pm

Well, admittedly each game has its share of shortcomings, but I think the main point everyone seems to be forgetting here is that //G.U. is a sequal, not a replacement. The story and characters, naturally, are different, but I don't think it's fair to say one's better than another in that respect. Personally, I think //G.U. has a very deep story, and the fact that you learn more gives me more reason to continue playing.

Of course we could argue forever about Grunties v. Steam Bikes, but it's all a matter of preference. =/

Post by **Kuukai** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:07 pm

Actually, I agree somewhat that G.U. is not better than the originals, as seems to be the popular opinion. Chim-spheres aren't a problem unless you never collect them, or you've launched about 40 mecha grunties (which just makes the game more interesting). A lot of the issues you have are sorta addressed in the next game, since party members help you with Chim Chims and Dul Dauna more the size of an R:1 town. I really miss the scenery from the first games though, the fields and dungeons just aren't as interesting (though they do add more in Vol.2)... As far as story and avatar battling (and also the equipment system) go though, I disagree. The story and characters are .hack quality, and I love being Haseo, I think he's a really fun persona to be, I often agree with his point of view too (which is actually kinda important for some of the story to work nicely)... Avatar battling gives you a nice change of pace, it would just be a bit nicer if it was more integrated, and there weren't a set number of battles... I definitely miss things from the first four games, but I can always replay those... This series is really just different not better or worse, in my opinion...