Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

[Keyaki]

A race war may be the wrong way of sayings things, but the race issue needs to surpass. As far as political science goes many would say racist still is very prevalence. Race matters when it shouldn't. I don't think I need to provide any examples. Think of a society with no races, are one with equal races.

You know how badly the world would suck if we were all just one race?

[Azure Knight]

I don't think I need to provide any examples.

Uhh, no, you do.

There are traditional Jews vs Zionist Jews.

Do you even understand what this means?

Right now there is the problem with the priest wanting to burn the Quran on 9/11. This is just allowing more chaos to come into society. CNN, ABC, Fox, or any others should stop with stuff like this. Adding more fuel to the problem would lead to greater conflicts.

So you think that the media should just not talk about issues like this, just totally stop talking about and showing current events to the nation? Because ignorance is bliss, right? That also attacks freedom of press, another value that makes America great, and sets us apart from countries under dictatorships.

As far as political science goes many would say racist still is very prevalence.

Like who? Do you have any examples of people who have said this?

If one group of people are powerful enough they could control, or at least have so much influence over others.

That may be true, but we don't live in a society where the leaders are born into their roles, or appointed by God or whatever. We live in a society in which the PEOPLE elect the men and women who lead our country.

[zaseo]

It may not be considered racist, but race, class, and genders matters in society. That are a heck of a lot of cases were someone gets paid less on the same job as someone of another race would. Stereotypes, and first impressions are what many people look at in life. It is sad yet true.

The media controls what we see, and hear to a great extend. CNN, and Fox can blow things way out of proportion. today there was a bomb threat in the Eiffel Tower, and now the Muslims in general are being attacked yet again. I don't agree with them on everything, but they aren't bad people, or anything. Their name gets slander way to much.

[AuraTwilight]

It may not be considered racist, but race, class, and genders matters in society. That are a heck of a lot of cases were someone gets paid less on the same job as someone of another race would. Stereotypes, and first impressions are what many people look at in life. It is sad yet true.

Yea, this is racist. Yes, people are trying to stop this, and if people are being paid less due to race or gender, that is f@cking illegal.

The media controls what we see, and hear to a great extend.

If you're stupid, sure.

CNN, and Fox can blow things way out of proportion. today there was a bomb threat in the Eiffel Tower, and now the Muslims in general are being attacked yet again. I don't agree with them on everything, but they aren't bad people, or anything. Their name gets slander way to much.

Westerners are bigoted assholes who hate non-Christian societies. What else is new? This is more bigotry shaping the media moreso than the media doing anything.

BTW, none of this proves the earlier points you were asked to make.

[Keyaki]

I wanna post something I've "read" from another forum and get everyone else opinion on it. Personally I think its absolute ****, but this guy adamantly believes it. So I wanna see what everyone here thinks of it.

I just wanna repeat though that I AM NOT THE ONE WHO SAID THIS. Ill quote just to re-enforce it that I'm not the one who says this.

Before I start I want to give you all a lesson about the Federal Reserve. Once you understand how it works, you know your country is being held hostage by the Zionist bankers. Seriously, this is not some wild conspiracy theory, this is the truth. Watch this 10 minute video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC8I3J-1GSM



(BTW, Kennedy wanted to end the Federal Reserve. Why do you think he got killed?)



9/11 was Mossad. Why do you think there were dancing Israeli's that day? Why do you think they drove a van with the towers on it, a plane and 9/11? Also, why do you think USA supports Israel (Billions a year)? USA is OWNED by Zionists.Stop watching mainstream media immediatly. It's owned by Zionists and it's all propaganda. If you ever want to learn the truth, you have to turn to alternative news sources.



The only reason for the wars in the Middle-East is to encircle Iran, because they're Israel's enemy (Not to mention the ever precious oil in the Middle East of course).



Also, do you guys know what Hitler did? He ordered to burn down the Reichstag and BLAMED COMMUNIST EXTREMISTS. Hmmm... Any similarities?



Also, why do you think all presidents are the same? Haven't you guys noticed yet? Obama for example, promised ''change''. In reality though, he has done the opposite of almost everything he promised. Weird huh? Why is it that no matter who you vote for, the result is ALWAYS the same? It's almost as if they're following a hidden agenda...



To those people who don't believe the government is willing to do such things.Operation Paperclip: After WWII ended, USA took Nazi scientists, gave them a new identity and soon after the MKULTRA program was started (Look it up). The CIA even drugged (LSD) an entire unsuspecting town!!! You don't want to know what the government is willing to do.

So what does anyone else think about this?

[Azure Knight]

So what does anyone else think about this?

That people are idiots.

[shugo_lover]

I'm not sure if this falls into this catagory or not, but do you guys think that even the worst of the criminals derserve to have something horrible happen to them and be killed in some obscene way or do you think that no matter the crime they don't derve anything like that?

(I guess this could have something to do with religion and beliefs. I dunno)

[Keyaki]

I'm not sure if this falls into this catagory or not, but do you guys think that even the worst of the criminals derserve to have something horrible happen to them and be killed in some obscene way or do you think that no matter the crime they don't derve anything like that?

(I guess this could have something to do with religion and beliefs. I dunno)

I think that the no matter the crime the closest punishment to death a criminal should receive is Life sentence without prole.

[Smitts]

[quote="shugo_lover"]I'm not sure if this falls into this catagory or not, but do you guys think that even the worst of the criminals derserve to have something horrible happen to them and be killed in some obscene way or do you think that no matter the crime they don't derve anything like that?

(I guess this could have something to do with religion and beliefs. I dunno)[/quote

No.
What would make you any different from the person who was being killed for the crime?

Plus some of those people have serious mental disorders.

[AuraTwilight]

No. While in a realistic world, punishment for crimes needs to be doled out, what does killing the person do for anyone? Killing someone doesn't teach them any lesson, and if they're dead, they can no longer suffer with the knowledge of what they've done. You've basically pardoned them.

And Ideally, I would find it unethical to harm anyone or allow any single entity to come to any sort of suffering in any means whatsoever. Not even Hitler. All evil in the world can be rooted in suffering. No one is evil just for lulz; it's to make up for a deficiency of the self. To lash out at someone who's wronged them or to make up for something they've lost. Without corrective discipline, all "punishment" does is encourage violent and hateful behavior. This is why you always hear about psycho killers coming from abusive households and crap.

[zaseo]

In this case Deuteronomy explains how I feel. "An eye for an eye, and tooth for a tooth." Some people prefer torturing the murderer. They would put them through extreme pain before killing them. Some people in rare cases kill with no, or illogical reasons. Those type of people likely won't feeling regress for the death of people.

The first part of Obama's healthcare plan has been passed. These parts I can accept so far. I will hate it when 2014 comes around. It feels like we're going way too far to the left. I rather not see the fed control something that is powerful.

The war for gay marriage rages on, but they will win. Homosexuals/bis from both sexes creep me out, but they will get their wish due to the 1st, and 14th amendments. This is likely going to lead to a rise in homo/bisexuality. First people will come out with it, and second it is going to be accepted as a new cool thing sooner, or later. There will be many kids trying the same sex because they see a celeb do it. Don't ask. Don't tell shall be going away soon as well.

Political science these days.

[Azure Knight]

The war for gay marriage rages on, but they will win. Homosexuals/bis from both sexes creep me out, but they will get their wish

Gay marriage should be, and probably will be, legalized because homosexuals and bisexuals are people and citizens of the United States and are just as entitled to their happiness as any straight couple. If it "creeps you out" because you think it's "wrong" or whatever, then that's too f*cking bad. Just because some people find it "weird", or "creepy", doesn't mean that they shouldn't be allowed the same rights as their fellow Americans.

due to the 1st, and 14th amendments.

I don't see how these amendments are at all related to gays having the right to marry.

This is likely going to lead to a rise in homo/bisexuality. First people will come out with it, and second it is going to be accepted as a new cool thing sooner, or later. There will be many kids trying the same sex because they see a celeb do it.

This whole theory is so off-base it's ridiculous.

[zaseo]

1st amendment freedom of speech. They have the right to speak about gay marriage.
14th amendment states can't depriving rights. The government can't deprive people rights. Gay people have the right to be protected like everyone else.

That is all that is needed to be taken to the Supreme Count to allow gay marriage.

The reason why I find gay people to creep me out is because of their acts. Well I'm be fine as long as they don't mention things like gay sex, or something. I'm one of those Christians that have limited views upon sex. Many of the sex acts heteos do creeps me out, and I find them unnatural, and harmful like masturbation.

[shugo_lover]

Little kids don't even think about dateing until there like 11 or 12. Also being 'Gay' is not considered some kind of trend that you can start. I think Gays should have some kind of ceremony but not be abel to marry. Marriage is between a Women and Man, so I don't think they should be allowed to marry. They should however have some kind of thing for them. I also agree with Azure Knight. Get over and what the crap do the amendmants have to do with anything?
You also didn't give your oppinion about my question you just said something stupid from something that i've never heard of before.
I think that though that the Wicked are always punished, but not in a way you may think (did that make sense at all?) I guess not. I pry just sound like a tard. So I'll shut up now.

I have a quick question for you. What kind of christan are you?

[zaseo]

I'm just consider myself a Christian. I left the church as it is corrupted. As for the whole "masturbation zinc" just search Google, or something. The other sex acts is so wrong. Sodomy = eww.

[shugo_lover]

Eww masterbation is gross and why are you talking about it?

[Tolby]

Wasn't it already talked about, in this thread, that the amount you would have to masturbate to have a zinc deficiency is.. sad.

[AuraTwilight]

In this case Deuteronomy explains how I feel. "An eye for an eye, and tooth for a tooth." Some people prefer torturing the murderer. They would put them through extreme pain before killing them. Some people in rare cases kill with no, or illogical reasons. Those type of people likely won't feeling regress for the death of people.

An eye for an eye leaves everyone in the world blind.

Honestly, what part of "Two wrongs don't make a right" do you people not get? If you do something unethical to deal with criminals, you only teach people that cruelty and violence is okay so long as you tell yourself the other person deserved it. Guess what? Most murderers feel their victims deserved it. Oops, looks like you just ruined the moral fabric of society.

The war for gay marriage rages on, but they will win. Homosexuals/bis from both sexes creep me out, but they will get their wish due to the 1st, and 14th amendments. This is likely going to lead to a rise in homo/bisexuality. First people will come out with it, and second it is going to be accepted as a new cool thing sooner, or later. There will be many kids trying the same sex because they see a celeb do it. Don't ask. Don't tell shall be going away soon as well.

You're an idiot. If there was going to be a rise in homosexuality, then it's already happened because it's already been glamorized in the media. But there has been no rise, because you cannot choose your sexuality. Don't Ask, Don't Tell should be going away anyway even if you disapprove of homosexuality. It was hurting army morale and impairing the effectiveness of the military.

The reason why I find gay people to creep me out is because of their acts. Well I'm be fine as long as they don't mention things like gay sex, or something. I'm one of those Christians that have limited views upon sex. Many of the sex acts heteos do creeps me out, and I find them unnatural, and harmful like masturbation.

Childbirth creeps me out, and I hate babies. I guess everyone's gonna have to stop getting pregnant.

I think Gays should have some kind of ceremony but not be abel to marry. Marriage is between a Women and Man, so I don't think they should be allowed to marry. They should however have some kind of thing for them.

Do you know what "Separate but Equal" is? It's unconstitutional.

By the way, according to the biblical standards of marriage, it was between one man, his wife, as many other wives as he could afford, any women he's raped, his concubines and sex slaves, and any daughters he was obligated to buy if his first wife's brothers died.

And you can't get a zinc deficiency from masturbating, you dumbasses. If the **** is in your balls, then your body's not using it away. It's like saying pooping gives you a feces deficiency.

[Gemcrim]

The reason why I find gay people to creep me out is because of their acts. Well I'm be fine as long as they don't mention things like gay sex, or something. I'm one of those Christians that have limited views upon sex. Many of the sex acts heteos do creeps me out, and I find them unnatural, and harmful like masturbation.

Childbirth creeps me out, and I hate babies. I guess everyone's gonna have to stop getting pregnant.

I do despise kids, seriously I don't think you quite grasp how much I loathe children, given three wishes I'd ask for a puppy, a decent chip sandwhich and for every child-bearing womb on the planet to pop out and fly away like a cheery parade of greasy red balloons.

I remember this statement being made in a ZP and agreed with it completely after a laugh. (DRAKENGARD~)

[Aru]

Little kids don't even think about dateing until there like 11 or 12. Also being 'Gay' is not considered some kind of trend that you can start.

lol, no, they don't, but that's not to say that kids can't display homosexual tendencies before having an urge to date.
What are you even trying to say I don't even.

and I find them unnatural, and harmful like masturbation.

Oh no you di'ent.

lol god I hate this argument. Instead of going by word of "god", why not take a look at nature?
Animals do the things you claim "immoral" pretty much all the time. Just because your pet dog humps something doesn't mean it's going to burn in hell, and we are no different.
Then again, I don't even believe in heaven or hell so lol what do I care.

Sex that doesn't result in babies isn't evil, wrong, or immoral.
It's just animals being animals.


I'm so tired of how most religions over complicate things. We're just animals, and we're only here to give, take, survive, and evolve.
..Not that I'm saying we shouldn't be civilized, but what people do in private with themselves, or with their partner, is their business.

The war for gay marriage rages on, but they will win. Homosexuals/bis from both sexes creep me out

Good to know. You creep me out as well. I now banish you from receiving basic civil rights.

but they will get their wish due to the 1st, and 14th amendments. This is likely going to lead to a rise in homo/bisexuality.

LOLOLOL just like how banning slavery was the only thing responsible in the rise of the African American population in America? Since repression is OBVIOUSLY the only thing keeping the population of the LGBT community down.

If there's going to be a rise in homosexuality, then it's going to be from something natural, like overpopulation, but lol there really isn't any rise at all. Homosexuality has been around forever, but people have only been more open about it due to there being less people who depend and base their lives entirely on a book written thousands of years ago by a stoner.

First people will come out with it, and second it is going to be accepted as a new cool thing sooner, or later. There will be many kids trying the same sex because they see a celeb do it.

lol there wasn't a single thing you said in those sentences that didn't make me want to punch you in the face.