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What th-?! No, global warming says that the average temperature on the entire Earth is going up. What you're describing is some sort of global staying-the-same, where the average temperature never changes but somehow one area gets warmer.

It's true that weird weather always happens, though.
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I guess I can kind of see where Kuukai is coming from, but we've done enough research on the global average temperature to at least come to the conclusion that we've impacted the planet negatively. I've gone to a few of the studies presented at FSU on the subject and I have agreed since then that we've done something to the planet that needs to be fixed. I'll come back to this after a few college courses on the topic, lol.
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They say the US contributes alot to it but I think China does more than us. Seriously, when you have to stop like almost everything for the plympics because the air is so polited nobody can breath. Now that is bad. All the air pollution from there factories is some how drifting over on are costs, I think.
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Well China is overpopulated. A lot of urban areas tend to have poor air quality.

On a side note I have a feeling bp is going to make things even worse soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM
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It's not that China is over populated. It has to do with all there industries.
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Which arise from the fact that China is overpopulated. Those industries exist as they do to support a a large-as-f*ck population with a large-as-f*ck economy.
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True True. There all also cheap asses killing us all by puting weird chemicals in stuff because its cheaper than useing some other safe thing.
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Maybe this is over thinking, but could a oil tsunami occur if the pressure is just right? A hurricane might move in the area of the oil, and pick much of it up. The results could be devastating, and make things much worst. From the looks up Louisiana shall take a hit this time.
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Yeah maybe. It's crazy. Now that a Hurricane of some sort is going to hit the coast. We'll never get it cleaned now. It's far to late to do anything now, the damage has been done. The sad thing is that people are to greedy to shut down and destroy the plant.
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That tropical storm is going to push the oil towards the shore. Out of all times for an oil spill this is the worst because this is expected to be an active hurricane season.
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zaseo wrote:That tropical storm is going to push the oil towards the shore. Out of all times for an oil spill this is the worst because this is expected to be an active hurricane season.
Bad luck has been happening a lot lately.
If they keep this up then there are gonna be so many more extinct species and Earth pollution...which we really don't need anymore.

Maybe people will start dying by the mass soon to starvation or disease and things can calm down for a little bit.
Better not get my hopes up.
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Smitts wrote:
zaseo wrote:That tropical storm is going to push the oil towards the shore. Out of all times for an oil spill this is the worst because this is expected to be an active hurricane season.
Bad luck has been happening a lot lately.
If they keep this up then there are gonna be so many more extinct species and Earth pollution...which we really don't need anymore.

Maybe people will start dying by the mass soon to starvation or disease and things can calm down for a little bit.
Better not get my hopes up.
Wishful thinking, but its going to happen eventually. With how far we expanded and all those people shoved in citys. It would be hard to escape desease. Probaly only those liveing in small towns or out in the country side would have a good chance of surveing. Now I wish something tragic would happen to all the celebrities. Seriously they arn't helping anything at all >.>
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If they keep this up then there are gonna be so many more extinct species and Earth pollution...which we really don't need anymore.
Points for implying we needed extinction and pollution earlier.
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Absolutely. After we hit dodos we were supposed to take care of pigeons...
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I've read parts of the Quran, and did research. If they follow the same God is debatable yet wagging wars because someone believes something else. I'm 50/50 on do we worship the same God, because of what people say about Allah, and the Tower of Babel. If he is Pagan then don't a good percentage of Christians idolize Pagan things? There shouldn't be a statue, drawing, painting, or jewelery of people in the Torah, or Bible. Most churches seem to be a business for money rather than means of salvation.

Due to the fact that we humans spend more money trying to find ways to kill each other than other peaceful things we will likely go extinct some day (maybe not extinct but at least massive population decrease). It all about who has the better guns, tanks, missiles etc. As time goes by it gets more crazy because people won't care if they die suicide bombing their foes. The 3 monotheistic religions won't united, but they should at least stay neutral with each other.

Kuukai whats next after pigeons, and when will it get to humans?
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zaseo wrote:I've read parts of the Quran, and did research. If they follow the same God is debatable yet wagging wars because someone believes something else. I'm 50/50 on do we worship the same God, because of what people say about Allah, and the Tower of Babel. If he is Pagan then don't a good percentage of Christians idolize Pagan things? There shouldn't be a statue, drawing, painting, or jewelery of people in the Torah, or Bible. Most churches seem to be a business for money rather than means of salvation.

Due to the fact that we humans spend more money trying to find ways to kill each other than other peaceful things we will likely go extinct some day (maybe not extinct but at least massive population decrease). It all about who has the better guns, tanks, missiles etc. As time goes by it gets more crazy because people won't care if they die suicide bombing their foes. The 3 monotheistic religions won't united, but they should at least stay neutral with each other.

Kuukai whats next after pigeons, and when will it get to humans?
A lot of those Christians symbols ARE Pagan.
The fish, the cross with the circle(halo). Those are Pagan symbols.
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zaseo wrote:I've read parts of the Quran, and did research. If they follow the same God is debatable yet wagging wars because someone believes something else. I'm 50/50 on do we worship the same God, because of what people say about Allah, and the Tower of Babel. If he is Pagan then don't a good percentage of Christians idolize Pagan things? There shouldn't be a statue, drawing, painting, or jewelery of people in the Torah, or Bible. Most churches seem to be a business for money rather than means of salvation.

Due to the fact that we humans spend more money trying to find ways to kill each other than other peaceful things we will likely go extinct some day (maybe not extinct but at least massive population decrease). It all about who has the better guns, tanks, missiles etc. As time goes by it gets more crazy because people won't care if they die suicide bombing their foes. The 3 monotheistic religions won't united, but they should at least stay neutral with each other.

Kuukai whats next after pigeons, and when will it get to humans?


I don't see how are Pagan symbols are going to make us go extinct.
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Think I've plugged this before, but read this: http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/pinker0 ... index.html
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shugo_lover wrote:
zaseo wrote:I've read parts of the Quran, and did research. If they follow the same God is debatable yet wagging wars because someone believes something else. I'm 50/50 on do we worship the same God, because of what people say about Allah, and the Tower of Babel. If he is Pagan then don't a good percentage of Christians idolize Pagan things? There shouldn't be a statue, drawing, painting, or jewelery of people in the Torah, or Bible. Most churches seem to be a business for money rather than means of salvation.

Due to the fact that we humans spend more money trying to find ways to kill each other than other peaceful things we will likely go extinct some day (maybe not extinct but at least massive population decrease). It all about who has the better guns, tanks, missiles etc. As time goes by it gets more crazy because people won't care if they die suicide bombing their foes. The 3 monotheistic religions won't united, but they should at least stay neutral with each other.

Kuukai whats next after pigeons, and when will it get to humans?


I don't see how are Pagan symbols are going to make us go extinct.

Pagan symbols won't make us go extinct. I was talking about how the USA, and other countries will likely nuke each other in dumb war someday. In this world the big countries are always trying to find better ways to take out someone.
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zaseo wrote:Pagan symbols won't make us go extinct. I was talking about how the USA, and other countries will likely nuke each other in dumb war someday. In this world the big countries are always trying to find better ways to take out someone.
"The big countries" have had nuclear development capabilities for a while now. If you think they're going to screw the world over just to bonk a few heads, my question would be what it is they've been waiting for all this time.

Plus there's that whole NPT thing that would be a dumb thing for anyone to ignore.
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