Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

[AuraTwilight]

AND WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU INSINUATING? >:(

Just because I find murder fun doesn't mean I'm a criminal.

[zaseo]

What is counterpart theory supposed to be? Everything has an opposite? You mean like Ying-Yang duality?

If so, I think it's crap. At best, it's an emergent phenomenon, not a cosmic truth. Superstrings have no counterparts, natch.

Who the hell would start a new religion, knowing that it's effectively a lie you created because no other religion satisfied you? It'd just be a testament to your own ego, just like every other religion ever formed by people who weren't deluded maniacs.

If I would start a religion branch if would have Jewish, and Christian teachings. I would have followers attend church on the Sabbath (Saturday). I would teach followers of my branch of Christianity to keep the Commandments with the 4th, and 1st ones being most important. There shall not be any celebrations of Easter, Halloween, and Christmas. I'm would be against things such as tattoos, piercing, homosexuality etc. There would be things like Passover, and other religious events.
1. What are your views on the counterpart theory?
2. If you start a religion branch, or a new religion base on your teachings what would it be like?
Lol this topic could go on forever.


It seems to me that most if not all things have a counterpart. I think most things must have a opposite counterpart for balance in the world.

If I would start a religion branch if would have Jewish, and Christian teachings. I would have followers attend church on the Sabbath (Saturday). I would teach followers of my branch of Christianity to keep the Commandments with the 4th, and 1st ones being most important. There shall not be any celebrations of Easter, Halloween, and Christmas. I'm would be against things such as tattoos, piercing, homosexuality etc. There would be things like Passover, and other religious events.

You are aware what you're describing already exists, right?

Well there are churches that are very similar to what I described. Maybe stating if you had your own church would have been more accurate.

[AuraTwilight]

It's still an asinine question. If you don't belong to any church, you're either an atheist or subscribing to your own personal beliefs anyway. And if you're starting a church, you either already believe it's true and are thus sort've obligated to already be starting said church, or you know it's a crock and you're indoctrinating people into a lie for your own benefit.

It's a question that serves as one big subtle admittance that religion is a crock.

[zaseo]

That is one thing that makes religion difficult. Its best if people read the religious books themselves first. It doesn't take that long, but I see this pattern. People go to church so they can get short term blessings from God, or Gods. They get that blessing usually, and go to church for that reason. They listen to a holy leader of some kind. That leader only tells them their truth most of the time. People gets filled with the spirit, and it starts over.

Well a "group" to replace church, or religion branch should fix the question. What would your followers do etc? Doesn't have to be God base.

[AuraTwilight]

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And you've just totally and completely missed everything I was talking about.

[Keyaki]

Well there are churches that are very similar to what I described.

Yea there are churches.....pratically ALL of them.

[marthwmaster]

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And you've just totally and completely missed everything I was talking about.

*rereads zaseo's post*

Wow, that really is quite amazing. O_o

[zaseo]

The thing about the 3 monotheistic religions these days is that all of them are being slandered, and they slandered themselves. Is it really a surprise that this generation is having more teenage pregnancies, and homo/bisexuals? If people take God away from kids at a earlier age it starts to affect things. What I mean is they still have options to be religious or a non believers, but people tend to be better off when God is introduce in their life.

At this rate the I have a feeling it won't be long before the USA army gets destroy, because most of it might become gay. Would people be ok fighting wars next to homos if they're anti-homo? It won't be long when half of every neighborhood has homo/bisexuals. Teenage pregnancy is already a problem enough due to the fact Pagan Christian people teach teens to avoid STDs much more than not doing it at all.

Might as well throw this in this post. Just because one understands good, and evil doesn't mean they can become God. The ones who believes this do not have their eyes open. They help assist the Whore of Babylon. Anyone of has read at least most of the bible knows what church fits the description of the Whore of Babylon is. Religiously speaking there is only one church that has the power to rule the world. Sooner, or later one leader of that church shall become evil if he, or she not already is. They will "whore" around with the world.

[shugo_lover]

We'll supposedly people are born as Homosexuals (because of unbalanced something in the brain) says the scientists. Also I have alot of good polished people that aren't into any kind of crapness and they are not religious at all. Teen age pregnacy has almost nothing to do with religion, and if thats how you think the future is going to be then people just better get used to it then.

Edit: Also you know the church has always been a little coruptied sense like the begining. You act like a false prophet and acting like you know everything.

[AuraTwilight]

The thing about the 3 monotheistic religions these days is that all of them are being slandered, and they slandered themselves. Is it really a surprise that this generation is having more teenage pregnancies, and homo/bisexuals? If people take God away from kids at a earlier age it starts to affect things. What I mean is they still have options to be religious or a non believers, but people tend to be better off when God is introduce in their life.

There aren't "more" homosexuals and bisexuals, they're just more open about it.

Teenage pregnancy is highest in really religious and conservative areas, so it probably has more to do with Abstinence-Only programs being a load of ****.

Your comment about people being better off with God in their lives is also a load of crap. It may be for some people, but most atheists are perfectly happy being atheists, usually happier than whatever religion they were before. If they weren't, they probably wouldn't be atheists in the first place.

At this rate the I have a feeling it won't be long before the USA army gets destroy, because most of it might become gay. Would people be ok fighting wars next to homos if they're anti-homo? It won't be long when half of every neighborhood has homo/bisexuals. Teenage pregnancy is already a problem enough due to the fact Pagan Christian people teach teens to avoid STDs much more than not doing it at all.

Newsflash, there's already gays in the military. It's just that they can get kicked out of someone finds out, even if they're not running around being flaming homosexuals. Does that sound right to you? The army won't "become" gay.

If you're a soldier, and you're fighting a war, the last thing on your mind should be what your teammates have sex with. If you really can't stand defending your country alongside homosexuals, you are a detriment to the unity of the team, not the homosexuals.

Might as well throw this in this post. Just because one understands good, and evil doesn't mean they can become God. The ones who believes this do not have their eyes open. They help assist the Whore of Babylon. Anyone of has read at least most of the bible knows what church fits the description of the Whore of Babylon is. Religiously speaking there is only one church that has the power to rule the world. Sooner, or later one leader of that church shall become evil if he, or she not already is. They will "whore" around with the world.

What the hell are you talking about, now? No one thinks they're God just because they understand morals. And no, not everyone who reads the bible knows what the Whore of Babylon is, because there's not even consensus that it represents a church or not. Stop being a jackass, your interpretation of religion is not shared by everyone else who reads it. Most likely, the Whore of Babylon refers to an empire, not a church.

[zaseo]

Homo/Bisexuality is becoming a trend, and the new thing. More people are coming out about it, but look at young kids experimenting with it.

A person who think they're God by understanding good, and evil shall fall to the darkness. Read Genesis 3.

Isaiah 14 if I'm not mistaken gives details about Lucifer. He wants to be "like" God. Nothing happens overnight, and for Satan to get followers he is going to have be "Like" God. There will be churches to deceive people into believing it is the right thing. The Whore of Babylon starts from a church, and becomes a evil empire.

[S1lentOp]

The thing about the 3 monotheistic religions these days is that all of them are being slandered, and they slandered themselves. Is it really a surprise that this generation is having more teenage pregnancies, and homo/bisexuals? If people take God away from kids at a earlier age it starts to affect things. What I mean is they still have options to be religious or a non believers, but people tend to be better off when God is introduce in their life.

Teen pregnancies in the United States have decreased overall for the last 30 years. Hard to say if there are more homosexuals than there were that long ago since that information is usually based on the people who are willing to admit they're homosexuals, something that has for a long time (and still is) stigmatized. I don't really see a reason why a person's life would be better if you introduced the belief in a god early on in their life.

At this rate the I have a feeling it won't be long before the USA army gets destroy, because most of it might become gay. Would people be ok fighting wars next to homos if they're anti-homo? It won't be long when half of every neighborhood has homo/bisexuals. Teenage pregnancy is already a problem enough due to the fact Pagan Christian people teach teens to avoid STDs much more than not doing it at all.

Considering the known homosexual population in the United States is less than 10%, I fail to see how it's even statistically possible that the Army would become completely homosexual just because we stopped discharging the ones who are already serving. Homosexuals have been serving in the United States military for a long time but they've had to do so secretly for fear of persecution or being discharged. Eliminating discriminatory practices toward homosexuals in the military should, like integration, create a less hostile environment in which homosexuals can serve and making the Army itself a stronger entity. Homosexuality isn't contagious. Soldiers aren't suddenly going to want to have a big gay orgy when some of them are legally allowed to say they're gay without fear of being reprimanded for it.

Here's another thing about the Army: When you're deep in the **** and just trying to survive, all of the **** goes out the window. There are soldiers who off the field are homophobic, but these are not the people we should be structuring our military around. Homophobia is a bad thing and not something others should have to be punished for. Despite these feelings, though, it doesn't play a role in how they fight when the fighting starts. I've yet to find a soldier with any field experience who would tell me that in a firefight the homosexuality of the person firing next to him would be foremost in his mind. If that person is going to walk into the enemy's line of fire, they're still going to warn them and they'd hope that person would do the same. As long as they can do their job, it doesn't matter if they're straight or not.

Abstinence-only education has failed miserably, and I'd wager that it's only made matters worse. Whatever your views of sex are, you're not going to get people to stop having sex altogether. It's a wholly unrealistic and naive solution to the problem and it would be a lot more productive to teach contraception, or "safe sex," instead of telling them they shouldn't have sex at all because they'll be on the moral high ground if they don't. Teaching people about the benefits of contraception is not the same thing as encouraging them to have sex. It's simply the most practical and realistic course of action so far to reduce the rates of STDs and unwanted pregnancy in light of the fact that even if you tell them not to, people are going to have sex.

Might as well throw this in this post. Just because one understands good, and evil doesn't mean they can become God. The ones who believes this do not have their eyes open. They help assist the Whore of Babylon. Anyone of has read at least most of the bible knows what church fits the description of the Whore of Babylon is. Religiously speaking there is only one church that has the power to rule the world. Sooner, or later one leader of that church shall become evil if he, or she not already is. They will "whore" around with the world.

The problem with attempting to predict the future with generalities or descriptions that would apply to a lot of groups, like the corrupting of the church, is that everyone thinks those predictions are coming true right now when in fact they're not.

[AuraTwilight]

Homo/Bisexuality is becoming a trend, and the new thing. More people are coming out about it, but look at young kids experimenting with it.

Homosexuality is not a "trend" or a "new thing." It's always been there. The only thing that's changing is that people aren't lying and denying their existing homosexuality, as they've been doing for god knows how long. Children have ALWAYS experimented with sexuality when they entered puberty. This includes homosexuality. I've told you this before, just because something is covered in the media doesn't mean it's new.

A person who think they're God by understanding good, and evil shall fall to the darkness. Read Genesis 3.

You say that like I give a **** about what the Bible has to say. It doesn't understand good or evil more than anyone else, since it glorifies rape and child-murder and genocide.

Isaiah 14 if I'm not mistaken gives details about Lucifer. He wants to be "like" God. Nothing happens overnight, and for Satan to get followers he is going to have be "Like" God. There will be churches to deceive people into believing it is the right thing. The Whore of Babylon starts from a church, and becomes a evil empire.

Aside from Scientology, no church is actually being lead by Satan to deceive people. Other churches are being lead by people who actually believe in the holiness of their religion, and want to save people, just like Christianity. How do you know your religion isn't being controlled by Satan, and you've been duped away by the One True God of some other faith?

[zaseo]

I still feel that males are becoming rather feminine with things like skinny jeans, or wearing their pants on their waist.

Satan controls most of the churches today. The 3 monotheistic religions have already been tampered with. This is the reason why I don't go to church anymore at the moment. I rather just read the bible to myself, and if I don't understand anything I could look up the meaning, and origin of the words on the internet. When I become stable money wise on my own I'm will likely end up going to a 7th day church.

What do you think about the Oil Spill?

Aside from it possibly being bible related from my point of view it will take awhile to clean it up. Well bye bye vacationing to the beach for people. Seafood shall skyrocket. If a hurricane, or at least a tropical storm forms then that is bound to cause trouble.

[shugo_lover]

I find it rediculas that they haven't found a way to clean up this oil spill yet.

[Keyaki]

Aside from it possibly being bible related from my point of view

Do you relate EVERYTHING to the Bible?

How the hell does the Bible have ANYTHING to do with the Oil Spill?

[AuraTwilight]

I still feel that males are becoming rather feminine with things like skinny jeans, or wearing their pants on their waist.

How is this in any way feminine?

Satan controls most of the churches today. The 3 monotheistic religions have already been tampered with. This is the reason why I don't go to church anymore at the moment. I rather just read the bible to myself, and if I don't understand anything I could look up the meaning, and origin of the words on the internet. When I become stable money wise on my own I'm will likely end up going to a 7th day church.

Satan probably tampered with the Bible, considering how heavily edited it was by the Roman Catholic Church when it was being compiled. So you still fail.

What do you think about the Oil Spill?

Stupid corporate jackasses dicking around at everyone else's expense while they drag their ass on fixing the problem because it's very easy to solve but they don't want to lose their precious ***** oil well, and it's effectively the greatest ecological disaster in the history of the planet if projections pan out.

Also at bible-related, lol. "And God said, lo, the oil shalt spilt upon the coasts of Louisiana, and thine BP shalt stalleth for time."

[marthwmaster]

Satan probably tampered with the Bible, considering how heavily edited it was by the Roman Catholic Church when it was being compiled. So you still fail.

Not to mention how the NIV says "homosexual offenders" will not inherit the Kingdom of God, whereas the King James (earliest English translation of the Bible) says nothing of the sort.

And to whoever it was that said homosexuality is a growing trend, I have to disagree. While I can't speak from personal experience, I highly doubt that anyone would choose to belong to a sexuality that will cause them to face persecution just because they think it's "in vogue."

[shugo_lover]

"And God said, lo, the oil shalt spilt upon the coasts of Louisiana, and thine BP shalt stalleth for time."

And God has spoken.

[zaseo]

In the Book of Revelation it mentions the sea, or ocean becoming black, and killing life. I can't remember the verse, but I will post it when I find it. Something is up. I figure they would have clean it by now, but damn. There are sharks coming near the coast and, dead, or oily animals washing up on shore. They keep failing with these solutions.

As far as the homo/bi trend thing it is maybe just me. At school I was noticing a alarm rate of homo/bis. The guys with the skinny jeans doesn't seem right. Never wore because I rather have my crotch breathe. The guy with the pants below the waist thing makes thing do you want to be violated.