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AuraTwilight wrote:
Also I know it is a bad thing for guys because when a guy ejaculates he will loss minerals, and enzymes. They are important for things like testosterone. Also its possible for a guy to have a deficiency in zinc.
This actually isn't true. Nothing is lost in the act of ejaculation that the man needs; it's not like the male body is going to cannibalize that zinc and enzymes back by eating the sperm if it doesn't ejaculate. That stuff is THERE to lose, and regular ejaculation actually lowers the risk of prostate cancer.

So with that, and combined with the absurdity of an omnipotent being caring about the harmless sexual habits of some monkeys, I don't see anything wrong with masturbation; if you have a man or woman, fine go for it, but if you've no other option, regular masturbation is actually good for your health.

Tell yourself this: Are you saying God wants you to have cancer?
I couldnt have worded a response to this any better than you did. I agree, I took Human Anatomy (and I suggest others take it as well) and the only thing you lose from ejaculating are 3 types of enzymes whose purpose is to lubericate the semen along with other minerals to help the semen survive. Thats it, nothing to it other than that.
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The whole purpose of the human libido is to give us a reason to have sex, so that we can reproduce, increase the population numbers, and have our race survive. If ejaculation made you lose important minerals and made the person unhealthy, it'd seem kind of counter-productive.
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I was wrong about the adverse effects on masturbation as far as the body. I guess as long as a person is marry, and doesn't get addicted to it they're fine. The whole Freemason, and conspiracy theories are something I think could be a possibility. Speaking from a Christian point of view I think this world is near the end. I'm opened minded towards things like this for some reason.

Lately there has been many earthquakes. Now this is something that happens a lot, but is it possible to make a earthquake happen with H.A.A.R.P, and Tesla technology?

I'm not sure how to put this, but if one was to be proven true with events, or conclusive evidences who can adapt to accept that they're wrong? If the Christians are wrong about the bible would they be able to easily accept science theories that would become laws? If the book of Revelation becomes true would atheist be able to accept that their theories were wrong?
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zaseo wrote:Speaking from a Christian point of view I think this world is near the end.
Actually, if you're Christian, you really shouldn't claim anything like that.
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Matthew 24:13
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zaseo wrote:Speaking from a Christian point of view I think this world is near the end.
Actually, if you're Christian, you really shouldn't claim anything like that.
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Matthew 24:13
No one knows for sure, but God. I truly don't know the day, but using knowledge from the bible we are getting hints that it might be near.
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zaseo wrote:
Anime Monkey wrote:
zaseo wrote:Speaking from a Christian point of view I think this world is near the end.
Actually, if you're Christian, you really shouldn't claim anything like that.
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Matthew 24:13
No one knows for sure, but God. I truly don't know the day, but using knowledge from the bible we are getting hints that it might be near.
Yeah, I doubt that. By re-reading Anime Monkey's quote of Matthew 24:36, It clearly states that no one, not even Jesus, knows when the end will come. Only God does, so there would be no reason for him to leave hints in his word if he clearly wanted no one to know.
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Correcting my own error: The passage is actually from Matthew 24:36.
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Noted. >3>
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Only God does, so there would be no reason for him to leave hints in his word if he clearly wanted no one to know.
Exactly, when/if the world ends, its not like God is gonna give hints or anything, those earthquakes, tsunamis, etc have been happening for years, decades now, they're no hints or anything.
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I was wrong about the adverse effects on masturbation as far as the body. I guess as long as a person is marry, and doesn't get addicted to it they're fine.
Why would that change anything?
Lately there has been many earthquakes. Now this is something that happens a lot, but is it possible to make a earthquake happen with H.A.A.R.P, and Tesla technology?
Theoretically yes, but not on the scale that we've been experiencing. It's a tectonic phenomena, and humans don't yet have that level of control over the planet.
I'm not sure how to put this, but if one was to be proven true with events, or conclusive evidences who can adapt to accept that they're wrong? If the Christians are wrong about the bible would they be able to easily accept science theories that would become laws? If the book of Revelation becomes true would atheist be able to accept that their theories were wrong?
Uh, yes, because any sane person only goes with the ideas they hold because they genuinely believe they're right, therefore it should be a simple matter of changing perspectives if proven that's necessary. While I can't say the same for most religious people, scientists and atheists aren't actively trying to disprove religion; it's just that what they've found out either contradicts, or doesn't need, religion.
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Base on events that has been happening later it would not surprise me if some of the conspiracy theories become true. With the big governments these days there is going to be corruption. The Christianity religion has been copied to deceived people from my point of view. It feels like there is Christianity, and Pagan Christianity. If the antichrist shows up as Jesus I can already tell a lot of so called "Christians" would be trick.
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crimsonxking wrote:There are a loooooooooot more than two different types of Christianity.
True, but I feel like they are like the two categories. How many branches follow all, or tries to follow the rules of the bible? Heck I feel many Christians don't even honor the Sabbath day. It Saturday not Sunday. Week starts on Sunday right so the 7th day is Saturday.
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crimsonxking wrote:The main problem I have with what you are saying is the mindset of "The way I do it is right and everyone else is wrong". Because they were raised with different traditions than you, they are not truly Christians? Christianity as a religion spans many different groups with various different traditions and focus. Perhaps you should look into which one you specifically are? At the very least, I highly doubt it is the original form of Christianity. Not that I see anything wrong with whatever you choose to believe, I couldn't care less, but you should avoid trying to judge others as "true Christians". If I am not mistaken, doesn't specifically say in the Bible that you are not to judge others, but to reserve judgment for God to deliver? If you really believe what you are doing is right, go ahead and fully believe that, and if your faith says you should spread the word of what you believe, go ahead and do that too. As far as I concerned, it is your right to do so, but you should be careful about how you speak of things when dealing with such heavy matters.
That something I got to work on. I don't speak things very well. In the bible it states that Satan will make a counterfeit religion of Christianity. Truly things that many Christians accept to be right aren't. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are being controlled. I'm raised under a Baptist, and AME background. In ways the churches are corrupted.

The way William Lynch told people to control slaves is being used today. Fear, distrust, and envy is the way to keep people in check. As far as views I would likely put in the SDA category right now. It matters not to me. Base off what is happening in the world I inferred that we be living Revelation. I think the economy is going fail, and that chaos is going to break out. Everybody mind has been outside of the void. When that person's mind is in the void they think. I feel many should stay in the void longer.
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I have a question for you, zaseo. You seem to refer to yourself as a very religious Christian in one post, and say you follow all the rules of Christianity. Then, in the next post, you'll go and bash Christianity talking about how it's using its power to brainwash people and get them to engage in practices to further their agenda. So, it sounds to me like you think that Christianity is brainwashing people, but you're following its practices anyway. So, which one is it? Do you support Christianity or not?
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I thought that too, but he refers Christianity in a pretty broad sense, so I assume that he's talking about every sect.
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I am a Christian, but what I trying to point out is that this religion has been alter so much. It kind of relates to some of the conspiracy theories. Some of them makes sense. Over many years our bible has been alter like with the Passover/Easter thing. That why I feel there seems to be a counterfeit Christianity. The bible warns people about this. The counterfeit ones gives ideas about what it is to be a Christian, but when the Antichrist comes back many are deceive into following this ways. No one can predict the day, but we're getting closer.
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okay now, I have a question for you zaseo

Are you like....apocryphal or something?

You keep going on how the world is gonna end very soon, how the economy, government is gonna fail and chaos will rise from the depths of hell ,etc ,etc

I'm not bashing you or anything, but again like Azure Knight, if your a Christian as you say why you constantly ranting the world ending as if you actually know when it will end? I mean do just walk around your area with a "End is near" sign on your body or something?
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According to the Bible (Revelations 23), you can't corrupt Christianity, and the thing about Satan making a counterfeit Christianity is a complete lie. Yes, it says that the Serpent will get everyone to worship him, but that's entirely different.

Basically, if you think Christianity is sacrificed in any way, you're not a true believer, because the Bible specifically states that God won't allow his church to be changed in any way.

Soooooo you're going to hell.
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God won't allow his church to be changed is true, but man has changed his church based off of God's church. When the antichrist comes to deceive everyone wouldn't that be like having a counterfeit copy of the true thing?
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He is not Jesus, but he comes back as him to trick people when the world would need a savior. That how I see things. When that times comes I think that when people we be force to get Verichip, or die. Look up RFID chip, or Verichip up on youtube. That can explain my points better.
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