.hack//G.U. SPECULATION THREAD AND THEORIES

xeno · Post by **xeno** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:41 pm

1.I never said that Morganna made this ultimate phase/AI did I?,there are other people capable of making a phase right? I mean if Harold made Morganna the evil that locked tsukasa in 'the World' then someone else can make some huge AI and harold is not involved remember the G.U preview press conference said new characters not rollovers so there is possibility that it is all just another sytem invading or (for once)a virus,because Morganna was not a virus nor was anything elsemorganna created so it could be, and 2. I heard from somewhere important like the Cyber Connect 2 message boards, or something like that I cant remember where, it could have been a newbie site,that Evil Kite's name was Tri-edge for his weapon.3.Who ever said it took place after the manga of Tasogare No Udewa Densetsu?,it could take place after the anime having it be a spawn of Morte.But once again I could be wrong[/spoiler]

ShadowBalmung · Post by **ShadowBalmung** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:11 pm

all the speculation about "Kite" is giving me a headache. All we know is that a charater model, specifically like that of kite is present in "the world" in GU.
What's interesting is that despite being data drained Haseo is still playing the game. how's that possible? it is via a power of Ovan?

also since we don't know all teh meaning of GU or the context of each meaning we are faced with a large section of missing information. the trailer had 9 and we also know "Grow Up" that means 2 meanings haven't been revealed.

xeno · Post by **xeno** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:16 am

hey this is more of an informative question on both ends but I was looking at the G.U trailor and it was in slow motion and I noticed for a mili-second it said this I or r kmu]]Q\E then this.hcow_s^g^ then .dot//hack S^G^ then .hacwL//G.S then .hack//G.U,what does that mean,and what is the S stand for?it seems there is more,and G.U could mean growing unbalance I also dont know if anyone else has said that beforethen later a little after or between (not sure which), it shows that fight between Haseo and others, and the naming of the phases it shows cubia( believe it or not), and before that it shows macha floating ( also believe it or not)then
dark-kite showed some fear right before Haseo's hit is blocked by Dark Kite,then at the end at about the time being 5:09 it shows a
Skeith look-a-like.Most of these cant be seen outside of slow motion so I thought I would share these with everybody here.

ShadowBalmung · Post by **ShadowBalmung** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:39 am

actually I have a small theory regarding that "Skeith 2.0" or whatever you wish to call it.

We know that in the beginning Haseo is PK'd, and that Ovan appears. Later we see Haseo confront that same group that had killed him before only now Haseo kils them.

The thing is that Haseo has changed into that black spined armor not hte belt like outfit of his original twin blade model.

I think that the characters who are given the same titles as the phases take on characteristics of that phase. Haseo changes from a weak twin blade to a powerful killing machine, just as Skeith was such a powerful killing machine.

I think that Ovan as "teh rebirth" has a power to resurect people who were PK's but alters them giving them the power of one of the phases.

Terror_of_Death · Post by **Terror_of_Death** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:19 pm

Your theory is quite contradictory from everything that I have heard from official press releases...

Haseo was not Pked by a group, and then sought revenge. Haseo hunts Pkers in the World, due to them running rampant. This is also how he was given his title of the "Terror of Death".

This is a direct quote from an interview held with Hiroshi Matsuyama (President of CC2): "You play as Haseo, a gray-haired character that's known as "The Terror of Death," a nickname derived from his practice of hunting down Player Killers. "

Its my belief that this is how Haseo finds purpose in the World. It makes sense when you hear Matsuyama's description of the World as such: "Since the events of the previous games, a cataclysmic event has caused "The World" to begin to evolve on its own. "PKs" (Player Killers) are now roaming "The World", though it is not sure how they have come to be. Essentially, "The World" has become more unstable and uncontrollable. Yet, people keep playing."

As of the moment, nothing has been released stating that these characters have the powers of the 8 phases. The only thing stated officially is the fact that they share the same title as the 8 phases from the Epitaph of Twilight.

I do not know all of the details of the game, so in turn your theory may hold some truth. However, that is what I do know and I hope it helps us all refine our theories a bit ^.^

Also a theory of mine, which I am leaving open for criticisim is that the scene where Haseo is fighting "Kite" happens early in the game. I forget which site I saw it on, but it said that Haseo started the game at the lowest level and worked his way up to the highest level in the game (which he attained through training with his friend Atoli, the girl in the flashbacks) and he used his power to fight Pkers. My theory states that Haseo comes in contact with "Kite" and does battle. During this battle he is data drained and stripped of his equipment and abilities. This is where we come in to the start of game play. This makes sense to me because Haseo would probably be at level 1 again after being data drained. This is where I believe that the story really starts to take off and we are introduced to the character Ovan.

ShadowBalmung · Post by **ShadowBalmung** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:23 pm

your theory does establish a strong start for the game however I do find one thing to contradictsuch a theory. The trailer shows the battle between Haseo and that group which he kills, and during that sequence we witness what seems to be flashbacks. these flashbacks show a Haseo in his simple gear not the armor, atleast one member of the group is persent in this flashback. The setting for that flashback is the same setting as for Ovan's scene and that location is not Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground. Careful observation of the enviornments proves this. Additionally if he gained all this high level experience with Atoli why then why is Haseo in his old gear not the armor in the flashbacks to his time with Atoli?

Terror_of_Death · Post by **Terror_of_Death** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:51 pm

Well if you pay attention, Atoli is utilizing the same weapons that we come to know as Haseo's weapons. I assume that she must have trained him upon entering the World (which explains why he is in his simple gear and not his higher level armor during the flashbacks) and then eventually gave him the weapons upon surpassing her. Later on he probably aquired the armor through his adventures. My guess is that field or room (however you want to describe it) must hold some importance to Haseo, since it also appears to be the room he appears in after being data drained. Very similiar to how the room that Aura slept in during .hack//sign held importance to Tsukasa, and whenever he died he returned to that area.

Its just a possibility like everyone elses, but thats my opinion.

ShadowBalmung · Post by **ShadowBalmung** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:58 pm

I suppose that such a thing is possible, and it's true, all we can do for the moment is speculate. At this time I would like to support my arguement between a form of connection between the Phase Skeith and Haseo, I only have one sequence to support a connection and that is the sequence at the very end of the trailer. it's 3 shots. the first is Haseo in his low level gear, in a blue-green enviorment, second we see some orbs like that of evil kite, and then in the last we see an enemy that resembles Skeith and which has been assumed to be some kind of Skeith 2.0. This Skeith is witnessed in the same enviorment as the scene of Haseo in low level. To me this suggests some form of connection.
Until further I feel it is safe to keep such a possibility at the forefront because I believe the phase titles are significant.

DragonoftheEarth · Post by **DragonoftheEarth** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:29 pm

well if shieth and him are some how connected then what about ovan. why would he appear at the end when his is lying on the floor knocked the f out

ShadowBalmung · Post by **ShadowBalmung** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:05 pm

yes but that scene is most likely not from the end of the game merely the end of the trailer in all likelyhood the scene with Ovan that we see is early in the game.

Xae-Solace · Post by **Xae-Solace** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:08 pm

the trailer is a tease guys don't think to hard about it or your head will
explode

. Just wait for the game... the theorys are getting wayyyyy in depth... I mean some of you have a full copy of the epataph and are
trying to decipher it lolz... its not really finished an plus wasn't something revealed in the game that said

The twilight written is only the twilight of Daylight

Therefore we could be going into uncharted Dusk sorta of the Epitaph
considering its not finished...

DragonoftheEarth · Post by **DragonoftheEarth** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:11 pm

or that could be the end of the game because there r 3 games total. but maybe not because i heard from other posts that the 3 games are all different. so who knows.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:04 am

1.I never said that Morganna made this ultimate phase/AI did I?,there are other people capable of making a phase right? I mean if Harold made Morganna the evil that locked tsukasa in 'the World' then someone else can make some huge AI and harold is not involved remember the G.U preview press conference said new characters not rollovers so there is possibility that it is all just another sytem invading or (for once)a virus,because Morganna was not a virus nor was anything elsemorganna created so it could be, and 2. I heard from somewhere important like the Cyber Connect 2 message boards, or something like that I cant remember where, it could have been a newbie site,that Evil Kite's name was Tri-edge for his weapon.3.Who ever said it took place after the manga of Tasogare No Udewa Densetsu?,it could take place after the anime having it be a spawn of Spoiler:
Morte
.But once again I could be wrong

No. The Phases only exist to complete Aura. Anything else would just be a Data Bug, and Data Drain is a technology only Harold understood. It was a science he invented and never told anyone about. Secondly, the whole thing about the Tri-Edge is bullcrap. I doubt that's a name CC2 would give a character. I stick by my AIDA theory. As for the anime of DUSK, it's not canon. It contradicts the rest of the series, is a hack-attempt at copying the games, and is just plain stupid. Morte, if she WAS Canon, was a Failed Aura Clone, and had no power outside the hacked server. She needed human accomplices. Morte was obsessed with learning about death (making me think she had some connection with Skeith). Now, if you're trying to KILL everyone, why would you be having kids?

Xae-Solace · Post by **Xae-Solace** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:21 pm

Maybe Aura has her own wave... I mean it makes sense and she knows
of the Epitaph, so the wave would make sense, but then why would she
want a wave? Maybe its her mother that drives her... Morgonna. idk its
strange because if tehre are phases that symbolizing another wave, but
where is this wave coming from and why would it be repeated...

xeno · Post by **xeno** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:55 am

maybe Dark-Kite IS Skeith or at least a part of him because Dark-Kite Data-drains Haseo exactly like Skeith data-drained Orca movement facial
features everything is the same, and yes I do know what happens to skeith at the end of Infection,but I am just saying that Dark-Kite may be a part of Skeith and that is why Dark-kite went after Haseo, to be the one true Terror of death and take back his title,also to elimnate any trace of any other Skeith data

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:22 pm

Maybe Aura has her own wave... I mean it makes sense and she knows
of the Epitaph, so the wave would make sense, but then why would she
want a wave? Maybe its her mother that drives her... Morgonna. idk its
strange because if tehre are phases that symbolizing another wave, but
where is this wave coming from and why would it be repeated...

No, the Phases only existed as data collecting programs to complete Aura. Aura absorbed the Phases. They no longer exist. And Aura would have no reason to make new Phases since she's perfect.

maybe Dark-Kite IS Skeith or at least a part of him because Dark-Kite Data-drains Haseo exactly like Skeith data-drained Orca movement facial
features everything is the same, and yes I do know what happens to skeith at the end of Infection,but I am just saying that Dark-Kite may be a part of Skeith and that is why Dark-kite went after Haseo, to be the one true Terror of death and take back his title,also to elimnate any trace of any other Skeith data

no. just no.

xeno · Post by **xeno** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:42 pm

I have yet another theory,and I personely think it is stupid but you can think on it for a while,what if Dark kite is an allly to Haseo and data-draining Haseo was the only way to get things started and dark Kite is the helba of G.U,and I still stand with my last theory,some of it anyway.

Sentios · Post by **Sentios** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:01 pm

Mizuneko2 wrote:
Gate of Urobobos
Guardian Ubiquitos

Hopefully nobody has said anything on these yet...

Ubiquitous - http://www.ubiq.com/hypertext/weiser/UbiHome.html

Uroboros - http://www.mu6.com/uroboros.html

Now both of this are perfect for the .hack universe wouldn't you say?

Terror_of_Death · Post by **Terror_of_Death** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:05 pm

Good find on the definitions of those terms. I think they fit very well into the .hack world and will definitely open up more topics for theories here on into the future.

Xae-Solace · Post by **Xae-Solace** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:40 pm

AuraTwilight"]
Maybe Aura has her own wave... I mean it makes sense and she knows
of the Epitaph, so the wave would make sense, but then why would she
want a wave? Maybe its her mother that drives her... Morgonna. idk its
strange because if tehre are phases that symbolizing another wave, but
where is this wave coming from and why would it be repeated...
No, the Phases only existed as data collecting programs to complete Aura. Aura absorbed the Phases. They no longer exist. And Aura would have no reason to make new Phases since she's perfect.

Come on, Aura can have her own phases because she did absorb them. Besides nothing is perfect and the fact still remains that there is still more for her to learn... Please, dont be so quick to shoot something down and make sure your not contrdicting yourself because the phases are in the trailer meaning they will come up again... the question is how?

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