List of Review results .hack GU Vol 1 got

Kiru · Post by **Kiru** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:01 pm

Akaji wrote:
Maromi wrote:I think some of you are failing to see that //G.U. is a B game (7-8/10 max). I think you can love the series and still admit that it's not a 9/10 game, because it isn't. Can the "reviews suk!" and "FF suks whyd it get better scorez!!1" and "they must not of palyed it!!1" comments cease? I enjoy .hack, yes, and sue me, but it's not an A game. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

EDIT - Kind of along the lines of HaseoDeath's post.
Ironic that you think that, somehow, just because you and a bunch of 'professional' reviewers say a game is a "B" game, it must be, but then you turn around and you say that you enjoy it. What makes a game an "A" game is entirely subjective, and it ought to be based on how enjoyable the game is.

To me, .hack//G.U. Rebirth is an "A" game - in my GameSpot reader review I gave it an easy 9.1. FFXII gets a nice stinking "F" and a middle finger for being a waste of $60. This is exactly why I say "reviews suk!" (although I believe I put it a bit more elegantly than that).

Reviewers are, as far as I have seen, entirely incapable of even attempting to give an unbiased review of a game. This is not a fault of their own; it's extremely difficult to give a good rating to a game that you didn't enjoy simply because you believe that others would think that it is good. For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone at all likes FFXII, and this is coming from someone who has played and loved every single Final Fantasy prior to X-2. I am not willing to admit that it is a good game (and I don't believe that it is), despite the fact that reviews for it were overwhelmingly positive. Professional reviewers are no different.

So, enough of my talking. What objective proof do you have that .hack is a "B" game?

Post of the year.

I don't get what's so great about FFXII, I don't like it too much.

HaseoDeath · Post by **HaseoDeath** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:25 pm

Reviews should NEVER be a reflection on how much the reviewer enjoyed the game. They are guildlines that tell us from a blank point of view, that is to say someone that's ignoring their personal feelings about the enjoyment level, about how it was as a game.

Music, Story, characters, gameplay, unique features... stuff like that can easily be reviewed by how much the person liked it, but it should mainly be from a blank perspective, as hard as that is for most to do.

Like I said, I love .hack to death but the past games were very bad, mostly due to the gameplay, dungeons, virus core hunting and such being very repetitive. G.U. is different but the cut scene quality is kind of lacking, music seems more like remix of past music and the dugeons and fields are only in 3 forms... unless you could weather. Heck, missions are either get the symbol fragments, beat the boss or just get the the statue... and the one quest I was looking forward to, the puzzle maze.. it was telling you exactly what to do. Although the boss Cernnoners or whatever was interesting.

Anyway, point is you shouldn't be upset over bad scores or reviews because some are spot on. This reminds me of the XPlay mails of people yelling at Morgan and Adam for giving Anime games bad reviews. I love Anime but most of their games SUCK. I LOVE Avatar the Last Airbender but that game is a very pathetic excuse for something to do, then again it's for little kids.

I don't like Half Life, I don't like Halo, I don't like a lot of popular games but I do look at them and say whats good and bad. World of Warcraft, I admire it's style and massiveness, but it's not for me.

In short, take a step back, forget your personal feelings for a game and look at the CONTENT... is it good or bad? Then, only then can you give it a decent review.

G.U. for me gets a 9/10 for enjoyment... but as a game, as a whole, as content goes... 6/10

Apple · Post by **Apple** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:10 am

Reviews are just someone elses opinion. I could write a review of how great a Barbie game is, and get paid for it.

I say .hack//G.U is an A- game. (:

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:20 am

Waste of $180?

Why do people keep treating this game as one-third of a game?

It's still a whole game, you know?

TwilightSkeith · Post by **TwilightSkeith** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:32 am

HaseoDeath wrote:Reviews should NEVER be a reflection on how much the reviewer enjoyed the game. They are guildlines that tell us from a blank point of view, that is to say someone that's ignoring their personal feelings about the enjoyment level, about how it was as a game.

Music, Story, characters, gameplay, unique features... stuff like that can easily be reviewed by how much the person liked it, but it should mainly be from a blank perspective, as hard as that is for most to do.

Like I said, I love .hack to death but the past games were very bad, mostly due to the gameplay, dungeons, virus core hunting and such being very repetitive. G.U. is different but the cut scene quality is kind of lacking, music seems more like remix of past music and the dugeons and fields are only in 3 forms... unless you could weather. Heck, missions are either get the symbol fragments, beat the boss or just get the the statue... and the one quest I was looking forward to, the puzzle maze.. it was telling you exactly what to do. Although the boss Cernnoners or whatever was interesting.

Anyway, point is you shouldn't be upset over bad scores or reviews because some are spot on. This reminds me of the XPlay mails of people yelling at Morgan and Adam for giving Anime games bad reviews. I love Anime but most of their games SUCK. I LOVE Avatar the Last Airbender but that game is a very pathetic excuse for something to do, then again it's for little kids.

I don't like Half Life, I don't like Halo, I don't like a lot of popular games but I do look at them and say whats good and bad. World of Warcraft, I admire it's style and massiveness, but it's not for me.

In short, take a step back, forget your personal feelings for a game and look at the CONTENT... is it good or bad? Then, only then can you give it a decent review.

G.U. for me gets a 9/10 for enjoyment... but as a game, as a whole, as content goes... 6/10

100% correct on all counts

HaseoDeath · Post by **HaseoDeath** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:37 am

$180?.... this game is like $40, unless you bought the limited edition from GameStop... which I hate that place but the Haseo figurine was cool..

The past games were one game cut into 4 parts, seriously.. vol 4 had everything data wise on it from the past games.... in fact, you could hack into vol 2's disk and read vol 4 E-mails lol.

This series is different. It's like a story with a to be continued. It's like watching a DVD.

That'd be like saying "Key the Metal Idol DVD Awakening is a poor excuse for a DVD since it only comes with 1/3 of the episodes" lol

Akuta · Post by **Akuta** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:20 am

Why i read the reviews, despite the obvious biasing:

Because reviews are like a big pile of information about the game's systems and workings. You can search arouns to find out the details about a game for hours, or you can go read the 3-page review from IGN and have it all there.

Cless · Post by **Cless** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:35 am

That not surprising that the game didn't get a good review. Though I kinda took a lot of breaks to prolong finishing the game. I guess they just don't like some of Bandais games.

wave killer · Post by **wave killer** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:58 pm

I have no problem with these reviews. They all seem logical to me, GU seems to have made great progress but it just fixed only a few problems instead of all of them.

Essence of Transcendence · Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:03 pm

yeah i love the series but i would only give the game a 8/10 it just did not live up to all the hype

dominus_draconis · Post by **dominus_draconis** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:32 pm

I like the rating that Gamepro gave it, it is a fairly good magazine(least it used to be anyway, not sure about now) but, 4 out of 5 is actually a really good score for them

Maromi · Post by **Maromi** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:02 pm

I think d5t posted or mentioned it somewhere, but the best review I read was one of the 7.5's.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:05 pm

do you think since this new media or .hack is broken into 3 volumes that it isnt fair to grade them individually? But rather a whole?

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:17 pm

They should not be graded as a whole. If you do that, you are saying it should've been one game.

Hachibi · Post by **Hachibi** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:56 pm

Dengar wrote:They should not be graded as a whole. If you do that, you are saying it should've been one game.

Well, One could argue that they could be called just one game. Each disc is called a volume.

Chirok · Post by **Chirok** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:36 pm

For me when I think about the feeling I get when I play. The first .hack games really immersed me into "The World". In fact I obsessed over the it. I got caught up into the mythology and even memorized The Epitaph of Twilight. Whenever I look at a game, I want an experience that i can make theories about and have fun not even playing while I'm at school. So the .hack games all do this for me, like no other game. Out of pure enjoyment I will give all of the .hack games a 10.
But if I were to look at the games as seperate from the .hack media, say a different game entirely, i would probably giv it a 6 and never play it.
I can see where reviewers are coming from, and I can see where you guys are coming from.

But as for me I give it a 10 just for being part of .hack.

Post by **Kuukai** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:55 pm

G.U. should be one game, but even one game of G.U. has a better story and deeper characters (something may be lost in the dub) than FFXII. It has a much more unique setting, and you can't draw a bijection from most of it to Star Wars... Evil guy obviously wanting to take over the world from the very beginning of the game (not to mention being a clone of Gihren from Gundam, which every Japanese person playing the game has seen) being the sole antagonist vs. "the great deception", which is a much better plot twist. I love a lot of the characters in FFXII, but unfortunately they're not the main characters. We're stuck with a kid who has nothing to do with the plot, and a queen who needs loss counseling... The battle system and graphics I really can't complain about, my only complaint is that the game should have been battling and rendering something else, other than the Dune Se-... sorry, Dalmasca Westersand, and crypt after mind-numbing crypt... And for what you can say about .hack endings, XII's ending doesn't feel very final (oh yeah, there's already a sequel...)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I hated playing either of them, but it's hard to give either an "A". I've played RPGs I've loved (FFX among them), and they usually feel more complete. The "meat" of G.U.'s setting seems like the world's most monotone MMO, and the "meat" (extra dungeons, quests, and mob hunts) of FFXII seems like an actual MMO, which for a singleplayer game isn't that much better.

Maybe the golden age of the RPG is over. Square wants you to play FFXI (Hence the psychology behind making you be a guy who has nothing to do with anything. That's the only conceivable reason I can think of, at least), and Bandai wants you to pay them $100 for no reason. I'll hold back my cynicism and close on a positive note though. In my personal opinion, FFXII's battle system was revolutionary and pretty fun. Espers are useless (in fact the entire system is useless if you're good at mist knacks and make gambits around that), but the battle system itself is quite nice. G.U. has a wonderful musical score, a great story, and a very compelling protagonist.

If I wasn't a franchise addict I'd wait two years and buy all four games for 40 bucks used in Akiba, though.

(It's gotta be demoralizing to see the admins semi-bashing .hack, sorry ^^;; )

wave killer · Post by **wave killer** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:05 pm

Ignus wrote:do you think since this new media or .hack is broken into 3 volumes that it isnt fair to grade them individually? But rather a whole?

I would say the volume are all just one game, but at the same time they're not. The old games should have been just one game since each volume didn't have anything new to them, it just continues the story. Now we have GU, CC2 says they made sure they made each game different from the last. So I guess that counts as a different game.

Kouen · Post by **Kouen** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:38 pm

A fair review would be to rate all three volumes instead of one. I mean a lot of good stuff are held off until the 2nd and 3rd volume. We shouldn't take these reviews to seriously because in terms of storyline, Rebirth does not have much compared to volume 2 and 3.