New Trailer(s)

VideoSpud · Post by **VideoSpud** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:23 pm

Maybe Tri, Orca, and Balmung are trying to stop Ovan from achieving some sort of goal....?

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:06 pm

Either that or he has something they want...

As for G.U.'s goal, if they were trying to continue Project G.U., they'd probably have tried to recruit Haseo, Atoli, and Sakubo a lot earlier... Also, during Roots their goal is Ovan's arm, not his or Haseo's avatar... They also wouldn't care as much about AIDA...

Akihito · Post by **Akihito** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:17 pm

Kuukai I agree about what you've said, probably Ovan have something they want, About the G.U. project goal I've finally achieved that they weren't exactly after the Ovans Arm, I've posted in the thread named "Ovan" my thoughs about.

So turning back to the TRI squad discussion, we have this guys pursuing Ovan for some reason and Ovan running away from them, and at the end of the trailer he decide to go fight them since he "can't let them go further" but, "further" in what?
Maybe Orca and Balbung will start to PK players while Tri-edge is recovering in the coffin? And this act of them piss off enough Ovan to decide to fight them?

Plus, he's running out of time, I've laready said that, for me Ovan suffers health issues so he need to achieve his goal (The Key Of Twilight) first to come at his end, and maybe he found a relation to the AIDAs and the Key and the TRI Squad are programmed to protect that..

I know this is such a bunch of unproven stuff, but today I feel very //Hack minded...

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:51 pm

I have one guess about what he's trying to do, but it sounds devious (I guess it matches his look in that CM though). He might be trying to prevent them from leaving the mirror server, possibly the only way to destroy Tri-Edge, since he regenerates if you defeat him any other way. But even if that's true we still don't know why Tri-Edge and Ovan would be gunning for each other...

He might be sick physically, or it might be an AIDA infection, which seems more likely...

Akihito · Post by **Akihito** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:56 pm

I see, that's a good guess too ^_^
Do the AIDa infection in any case affects that much the PC? I don't know much about Endrance but I'm sure he got defeated and DDrained of his AIDA, do you mind (if you know it) tolding me what happens to him after since I can't find it around?

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:41 pm

We don't know what happens to him, really, he isn't seen after the battle. All we know is he's froze for some reason in the next game. We don't know too much about AIDAs either, but in Endrance's case it affected him a lot...

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:48 pm

perhaps Ovan's arm is Anti Intrusion Device for Aura. I mean i cant see any other reason other than that for the fact in that trailer. Miraculousy he survived the encounter

VideoSpud · Post by **VideoSpud** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:51 pm

He wants the Key of Twilight, and his arm probably isn't the Anti Intrusion Device for Aura. A lot of the AIDAs are that. The large thing on Ovan's left arm is a seal for a dangorous AIDA, which Tri-Edge, Orca, and Balmung seem to be after. All we can do now is just speculate and come up with theories, since we don't know it for sure.

Akihito · Post by **Akihito** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:11 pm

Yata says that the arm of Ovan is certainly infected by something, but we still don't know what, we can presume it's an AIDA since he shows it in //ROOTS and AIDAs are the only A.I. that we know so far in the game (Epitaph are still not so clear, they can be A.I.s or just the inners parts of the Epitaph Users) we just have to know what the differnce of Ovan AIDA and the others, you know the one affected Endrance too seems to be a different kind, it kinda protects his user...I've guessed that, if a Epitaph user manage to get in touch with the AIDA he got more power in The World, you know, Ovan managed to escape from the administrators cage and Endrance to run away from the battlefield after being DDrained by Skeith/Haseo so maybe the Tri-Team is after those who manage to have the control of an A.I.D.A., in our case just Ovan....

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:41 pm

Anti Intrusion Device for Aura
Artificially Intelligent Data Anomally

was there any other meanings? perhaps AIDA has different meanings or are variations of the same process. Ovan's arm being an Anti-Intrusion Device for Aura. Ovan wants Haseo to become stronger because he knows he will fall at the hands of Tri-edge, Orca, and Balmung. Artificially Intelligent Data Anomally would refer to the active ai within the world r:2. those ai that are able to cross over liminality. Aida have two purposes. one is to collect data by crossing over into liminality. two is to search aid the phases by searching out possible epitaph users. That would make Tri-edge and company completely different than your typical Aida. i believe him to be the resulting dummy pc that was used by amagi when the R.A. plan was commenced. That dummy epitaph user does not want there to be a new Aura nor does it want the real Aura to return. Still we find ourselves asking what happened to the real Aura in the first place? why did she run away? Any assumptions i've made here are mostly speculation...

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:54 pm

perhaps her being has been "suspended" with the orginal tw destroyed.

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:00 pm

that doesn't explain why she ran away in the first place; as Shino seems to give off the impression Aura ran.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:11 pm

its possible she made it seem she ran so she wouldnt be found...not sure why tho.

Its also possible she fled out of the world because it was destroyed. But if she did why hasnt she returned yet. The only thing i can think of is she is unable to recognize The World R:2 because of its vast difference from its predessor

does anyone else notice that whats happing in GU is an exact reverse of what happened in the 4 part series.

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:53 pm

Aura disappearing was the whole reason revision 2 ever came into existance.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:11 pm

Aura left because she allegedly lost her love and courtesy for the World. It seems she doesn't give a damn and abandoned her kingdom to evolve further.

Is it just me or does Tri-Edge seem somewhat less zombie-esque in this advert? Apart from the stylistic addition of a second eyeball, he has a more... human expression. He also appears more powerful, apart from complementary Balmung and Orca fuzz, he also has glowing eyes and a rather superior expression.

It could be that Tri-Edge is evolving and becoming more human.

I'm not sure how much of the terminal disc you've seen/read, but Project G.U. fails. "G.U." is a current CC Corp organization run by Yata, but it at least seems to have a different purpose...

Perhaps that goal is simply to repair the damage caused by the original experiment?

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:55 pm

It could be that Tri-Edge is evolving and becoming more human.

now that you say that, an idea came to mind. what if Haseo/Skeith's actions damaged the aida that took control of the original Kite? or at least the original character avatar, you know what i mean? When the azure flame god was defeated the first time the aida/dummyepitaph/whatever was weakened and thats why we see more of Tri-edges face. i doubt it, but you never know.

actually just scratch that. i had a good idea that wasn't going anywhre. >.>

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:44 pm

They came up with like a dozen meanings, "Anti Intrusion Device for Aura" isn't necessarily the most meaningful...

Dragoon2044 wrote:that doesn't explain why she ran away in the first place; as Shino seems to give off the impression Aura ran.

Shino's not psychic, if she was she'd probably have whatever it is she wants... She also wasn't around when Aura left. It's just a metaphor for the way Aura abandoned The World...

And Tri-Edge has to be stronger next time you face him, just by virtue of the fact that you'd kick his ass if he was level 40-whatever... So yeah, I think he's getting stronger...

They whole "It's like the original but in reverse" was a great idea when the first trailer came out, but it's not so much anymore... Tri-Edge hasn't successfully taken out a single phase, and what he's doing just seems completely different.

PyroTwilight · Post by **PyroTwilight** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:08 pm

I do wonder where these Balmung and Orca look alikes came from though. If TriEdge could make/summon them you'd think he'd have done it earlier. Hmm, maybe Triedge is so overly damaged from being beaten in Volume 1 that he summoned Balmung and Orca to steal/absorb or something Ovans Corbenik avatar, so that they could revive Tri Edge to full power.

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:31 pm

it just occurred to me that we really have no idea what aida actually is...

PyroTwilight · Post by **PyroTwilight** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:35 pm

Is it just me or does Tri Balmung not have wings?