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Post by A.R.T » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:30 pm

I'd just post a screenshot but here's a link to the vid. SPOILERS AHOY!

 Mary is in a coma. Hermit seems to be either helping Sophia or investigating the area. He can access the area unlike the others...there's a seamless transition between the kid player and Hermit (which makes me sad...I really wanted him to be an AI...for my sake, I'm pretending he's an AI!). Sakuya, who was knocked out, was only touched in mid teleport so she was not as affected as Mary, so she wakes up and is saved the fate of being stuck on the tree. Sakuya and Tobias do some research into "The World" and meet up with Pi, who informs them of the history of "The World". Hermit sends them info on the comatose players and Pi uses this. Dol Dona makes an appearance. Something really scares Hermit when he's sneaking up and watching Sakuya talking with Pi's Aina character...something Mini Pi says really sets Hermit off, causing him to teleport away and destroy a very good looking bar. In Mac Anu, Sophia and her GIANT TREE BRANCHES OF DEATH BURST OUT OF THE GROUND and giant bugs scatter everywhere attacking players and literally start sucking them up...Mary returns, albeit as a controlled extension of Sophia's will. Pi attempts to Data Drain her but it only works for a second. Hell breaks loose and "Aina" makes everything go BOOM in Mac Anu leaving the fate of Mary and everyone else in the air...

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Post by (Phantom) Thief » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:04 am

You should edit the title, it kind of gives the theory away. Also just say Shamrock. Still its all interesting. Thanks.

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Post by roru_aurarios » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:51 am

Now I am more curious to watch the next OVA episode since the second DVD of it will be near the end of this month. Oh and by any chance anyone see the video in my Youtube account "The Wataru Channel"? It shows one of the additional .hack//Quantum shorts from the first DVD. This one shows about the main characters as Chim Chims demonstrating or talking about some lesson.

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Post by k-su » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:26 pm

Just finished watching Wired Prisoner. I wanted to elaborate on what's been said so far, mostly on Hermit, to those who dare read. However, I'm not very fluent in Japanese, so this may not be entirely accurate (plz correct me if I'm wrong), but if it's already been touched on and with better accuracy, just ignore me anyways:

 Hermit is a terminally ill patient from America. He's been in contact with GEEK who he's been supplying him with such things as the irl info on the coma victims and their correlations probably. This info passes from Hermit to Sakuya to Shamrock. Sakuya and Tobius speak with Shamrock irl and in game and during their exchanges, Shamrock to determines something from the data and according to their information a little later, Sakuya is a perfect match for something probably related to the coma victims. During their conversation, Shamrock touches on the subject of Hermit's situation (possibly even giving an approximated expiration date). Hermit overhears and freaks out.

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Post by Tolby » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:06 pm

 Of course he is. Only Americans can be that cool.

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Post by Shinsou Wotan » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:47 pm

k-su wrote:Just finished watching Wired Prisoner. I wanted to elaborate on what's been said so far, mostly on Hermit, to those who dare read. However, I'm not very fluent in Japanese, so this may not be entirely accurate (plz correct me if I'm wrong), but if it's already been touched on and with better accuracy, just ignore me anyways:

 Hermit is a terminally ill patient from America. He's been in contact with GEEK who he's been supplying him with such things as the irl info on the coma victims and their correlations probably. This info passes from Hermit to Sakuya to Shamrock. Sakuya and Tobius speak with Shamrock irl and in game and during their exchanges, Shamrock to determines something from the data and according to their information a little later, Sakuya is a perfect match for something probably related to the coma victims.
Pretty close. The information is private medical data, specifically the Human Leukocyte Antigen (HLA) phenotype.
 During their conversation, Shamrock touches on the subject of Hermit's situation (possibly even giving an approximated expiration date). Hermit overhears and freaks out.
Again, close, but missing one detail. I haven't watched episode 2 yet, but I'm assuming it isn't too different from the novelization, since I recognize the scenes described above.
What follows is a MAJOR plot point. DO NOT highlight if you don't really want the spoiler.
 The "expiration date" in question is seven years in the past.

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Post by k-su » Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:06 pm

That does makes a lot more sense and gives me some ideas to marinate on. Thanks for that. I'm glad I didn't completely fudge things up.

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Post by Airon » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:39 pm

 7 years ago is smack dab in 2015, same time R:1 was destroyed in the fire. Just following the chain of thought, this death is connected to R:1's destruction? If we want to take it even further perhaps Hermit is related to Mia, 7 years ago is also when Mia got deleted. I find it unlikely that this kid can be talking to someone like GEEK and receiving all this info from the comfort of a hospital bed, no doubt the Children's ward at that. He'd have constant monitoring and I'd like to think someone in that hospital cares enough to check on the ten year talking about SSN's and Haplo-whosits.
One more thing to consider is how Hermit woke up at the start, he seemed startled and a little too excited to check those crystals, the boy IRL didn't seem that excited, he seemed calm and detached from what had actually happened to Hermit (falling down to his almost death and creating that alternate area)Perhaps, Hermit is an AI, from the R:1 era (maybe related to Mia)... Working to save the boy?
I just don't feel right accepting that Hermit IS the boy, there's a connection no doubt, but that they're one and the same seems iffy.


I don't know, just conjecture upon conjecture.

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Post by Shinsou Wotan » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:22 pm

seithecs wrote: One more thing to consider is how Hermit woke up at the start, he seemed startled and a little too excited to check those crystals, the boy IRL didn't seem that excited, he seemed calm and detached from what had actually happened to Hermit (falling down to his almost death and creating that alternate area)
I won't say much other than this: Don't take the IRL scene at face value.

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Post by ART1984 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:56 am

Taking into account what we know...

 Hermit finds out his expiration date was seven years ago. So if he died, then what is his purpose in The World? When he's lying there in the grass in the Vol.3 preview looking up at the sky, it gives the impression that's he wondering WHAT the heck he is...a reincarnation of Mia that somehow got the emotional an d memory data of this terminal patient that we see in America and thought he was this kid? Maybe the scene we saw was a flashback and Hermit was waking up from it...like a dream or something. I don't know...there's just something off with this whole thing. Watching the episode, something about that scene threw me off. This gives me new hope that our Hermit IS an AI. I hope we get answers in Worldend Pallbearer.

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Post by Kuukai » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:32 pm

Since it doesn't look like anyone's said it outright:
 Hermit is trying to use the hacked personal information to find a genetically compatible donor to save a patient, but I wasn't sure based on what was intelligible of Hermit's freakout that it was himself. Shamrock reveals that this patient is long dead. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the coma victims, except the list Sakuya picked up was activated when Hermit added information from victims in the black tree area, and Iori calling the subsequent list of phone numbers set off NAB warning bells. As luck would have it, Hermit's new friend Sakuya is a compatible donor!

The name of the show is starting to make sense. According to the Chim Chim Sakuya, "Quantum" = "Ryoushi" = "Lios", that guy who runs The World! Wait, that's wrong! Actually:
 Quantum computing seems to be the force behind the cages, if I understood correctly they're used to represent/extend the victim's neural network or something. Unphased, Geek was about to hack Eri out before Hermit started breaking everything.

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Post by (Phantom) Thief » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:50 pm

 I dislike hidden text but supposing Tanagami is dead, is it possible that Hermit is an early result of Soul Digitalization? Maybe his body died from the shock but Hermit couldn't mentally accept what happened and tried to save himself. Also who is the Klarinette PC?

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Post by Kuukai » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:41 pm

 It's possible but they'd need to explain the two generation gap of The World revisions, and like I said I'm not sure they're the same. Otherwise this is almost too similar to CELL...

Another member of Yata no Karasu. Not named in the credits, maybe she's in the novel or guidebook but otherwise I don't think she's relevant...

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