After vol 3 what will the next dot hack be like ?

[zaseo]

What do you think things would be like after Dot Hack Roots Ova ? One thing I hope for is they don,t put in a Prios the 4th or 5th . He is a good ally in battle , but acted strange to me . What with the hugs and kisses after you beat Endracne and Sirius at the ceromory ? Wonder what the battle system will be like ?

[LegendaryDarkKnight]

Who even said there will be a new .hack?

[zaseo]

I just wondering if they did what do you think it would be like .

[Suikoden]

Can't see where the story can go can go after this series. Are they going to make a The World: R3 to keep it interesting?

The gameplay on the other hand has endless possibilities, they could improve and add a huge amount in the next series. So, with the story all but done when it comes to being interesting, the next step for .hack series would be to become a real MMORPG, one with some serious effort put in..unlike Fragment. Would it work? I don't think so, .hack doesn't have a big enough name for it to beat the likes of Warcraft in the MMO arena.

[AuraTwilight]

As for where it could go, the story could always involve some other MMO. Like Riot Gun.

[Suikoden]

As for where it could go, the story could always involve some other MMO. Like Riot Gun.

What I'm saying is that the story will have nowhere interesting to go. They've done the mystery thing twice already now on two different versions of the world, there's only so many times they can remix the same thing and keep it feeling new.

[Dawn of the Warrior]

As for where it could go, the story could always involve some other MMO. Like Riot Gun.

What I'm saying is that the story will have nowhere interesting to go.

Thats what we all thought at the end of IMOQ but they suprised us with GU didnt they?

[Suikoden]

Not really, they simply made another series set in an all new version of The World - The most obvious option outside of going all out on a proper .hack MMO. The 'baddies' were faces we all knew from the original series, the phases returned, problems with The World returned. G.U. is simply a remixed version of the original series with vastly superior gameplay, music, graphics, characters...ok, superior in just about every area.

It wouldn't be acceptable if they made another series in another version of The World with some unknown problem needing to be fixed during 3-4 dragged out (but enjoyable in the case of G.U.) games. Even .hack fans would get annoyed if we were simply fed the same thing in a different way again as it would be the third .hack series and G.U. would be much harder to improve on than the poor original series.

[AuraTwilight]

Well, for one thing, CC2 said that any new .hack games would be single volume, and secondly, the AIDA thing was fresh and new, and so was the concept of Avatars. The reuse of the Phases was so well done that it might as well be completely fresh material. And with Aura effectively out of the picture, the story can go ANYWHERE.

Frankly, you're just judging from a lack of imagination.

[Suikoden]

And you seem to be judging from the perspective of a blind .hack fanboy/girl/person. Head out of arse time, please.

There's a crisis/virus that needs fixing in "The World", it starts causing problems in real-life with people becoming ill or worse, mixed with electrical issues and the like. Of course, the story has to be very mysterious and move as slowly as humanly possible in order to get more money from people, with not much effort put in in the way of quests, items and basic error checking. Sound vaguely familiar? Of course it does; that description could describe both .hack series.

Now, about you saying "C2 sed dis"... If I recall correctly, wasn't it said by CC2 that each G.U. game would be as long (or was it longer?) than the original series combined AND that each games would be true sequels instead of the same game split up? They REALLY kept to what they said there. If they said 1 game, expect 1 split into 2.

AIDA? New? Nope, simply an idea taken from the original series, renamed and shown with better graphics. And yes, I'm well aware the phases and avatars play different roles, but they're still there and you still fight them in boss fights - As I said, remixed. I can't comment about how (if it all) Aura fits in to all the fun since I haven't played Vol. 3...all I can say is that the cathedral scenes (plus the cathedral even existing) and Vol. 3 preview heavily hint that Aura will have some involvement before the end. The fact Epitaph Users having the Morganna Factor also heavily hints that Aura's mommy will be playing a part in this, so... *shrug*

I do actually like G.U. - It's vastly superior to the original series in nearly every way. But I'm not blind to the fact that .hack is still one big cash how, a cash cow with not enough effort put into it by the developers. The concept of .hack is stunning and, simply put, the lack of effort and attempts to milk as much money from the series as possible have made what should've been an amazing gaming franchise into something most people are barely interested in. I just don't hold much hope for any single-player sequels now the story has now gone as far as it can without turning stale.

[AuraTwilight]

And you seem to be judging from the perspective of a blind .hack fanboy/girl/person. Head out of arse time, please.

That kind of comment was unnecessary.

There's a crisis/virus that needs fixing in "The World", it starts causing problems in real-life with people becoming ill or worse, mixed with electrical issues and the like. Of course, the story has to be very mysterious and move as slowly as humanly possible in order to get more money from people, with not much effort put in in the way of quests, items and basic error checking. Sound vaguely familiar? Of course it does; that description could describe both .hack series.

The plot advancement wasn't THAT slow. C'mon now.

Now, about you saying "C2 sed dis"... If I recall correctly, wasn't it said by CC2 that each G.U. game would be as long (or was it longer?) than the original series combined AND that each games would be true sequels instead of the same game split up? They REALLY kept to what they said there. If they said 1 game, expect 1 split into 2.

Alright, good point. But they might've been talking about gameplay, since translations were pretty iffy. I dunno. Anyway, I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.

AIDA? New? Nope, simply an idea taken from the original series, renamed and shown with better graphics. And yes, I'm well aware the phases and avatars play different roles, but they're still there and you still fight them in boss fights - As I said, remixed. I can't comment about how (if it all) Aura fits in to all the fun since I haven't played Vol. 3...all I can say is that the cathedral scenes (plus the cathedral even existing) and Vol. 3 preview heavily hint that Aura will have some involvement before the end. The fact Epitaph Users having the Morganna Factor also heavily hints that Aura's mommy will be playing a part in this, so... *shrug*

Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that AI's replicating Darwinian Evolution in a cybernetic ecosystem was a rehashed IMOQ idea. Ass.

And no, Morganna doesn't show up. But if you haven't played the third volume, don't go knocking the story. It's like saying you hate food before you even taste it.

I do actually like G.U. - It's vastly superior to the original series in nearly every way. But I'm not blind to the fact that .hack is still one big cash how, a cash cow with not enough effort put into it by the developers. The concept of .hack is stunning and, simply put, the lack of effort and attempts to milk as much money from the series as possible have made what should've been an amazing gaming franchise into something most people are barely interested in. I just don't hold much hope for any single-player sequels now the story has now gone as far as it can without turning stale.

Well, of course it's a cash cow, all franchises in the history of commercialism are. Frankly, there's a lot more effort going into the series than you give it credit for, and until they actually screw up a sequel, I'm not gonna hold them accountable.

[ReiMehari]

The new games certainly felt new to me. Each one's a different experience.

[Rakuroikusan]

Actually I'd be even satisfied with just some kind of expansion to Redemption. Allowing leveling up to level 200 or 250, new items, get the remaining G.U. cast like Sirius, Taihaku, Gabi, etc... That'd be good enough for me.

[d5t]

CC2 should keep the name of the series and keep the same cyberpunk-ish plot. I think they've exhausted the premise of a game within a game throughout the seven PS2 games. CC2 is a unique gaming company (they don't just churn out games like a factory-- a la EA games and other companies), and I think that the next iteration of .hack will please all.

And on a separate note, the translation of each game being longer as the other four games combined was a pretty bad translation (I think it was from RPGamer).

[Rakuroikusan]

I agree, .hack was never horrible, they always found a way to make it better as it went. I'm really confident that they'll come up with a .hack that'll amaze us all. These games were all really well made. But, to my opinion, they shouldn't end G.U. right away. Even though the storyline is almost plot-hole free, they still have things to work with, like the dummy factor, and Saburou, she/he seemed to know a bit too much about Harald and Aura. They still haven't given Ovan his Lost weapon either. One way or another, I'm sure they'll come up with something we'll all enjoy. They haven't really let us down before have they?

[Suikoden]

Mentioning Ovan hasn't got his LW yet when you're talking about a possible continuation of G.U. indicates he survives Vol. 3. That alone is a big spoiler to most.

I know this is the Vol. 3 forum and all but you have to remember the English release isn't even out yet...

[.hack//BICTIOUS]

We KNOW Ovan has his Lost Weapon. It's missing by the time you get there and he is the only possible person who could have taken it.

[AuraTwilight]

they still have things to work with, like the dummy factor

Read GU+.

and Saburou, she/he seemed to know a bit too much about Harald and Aura.

Agreed. Frankly, she's one of my favorite characters. Though it's possible Pi just gave her information.

[Rakuroikusan]

It's true the dummy factor was introduced in G.U.+, but as I recall, G.U.+ isn't cannon, right? And even though Ovan might have his lost weapon, he hasn't shown it yet, I'm pretty sure I've read that the Demon Slice is not his Lost Weapon. It'd be cool to see more Lost Grounds too. And I don't think I just speak for myself for this, but wouldn't it be cool to chose from all 3 Skeith forms to fight in the VR system. I would love to beat the crap out of Aida<Anna> with Skeith v3. And struggle against a certain Final Boss with Skeith v1.lol But seriously, if they're going to make a new game seperate from G.U., I really hope it's on a next gen console. Don't get me wrong, they're doing an excellent job with PS2, but can you imagine what they could do with Ps3, the Wii, or Xbox360?

[AuraTwilight]

It's true the dummy factor was introduced in G.U.+, but as I recall, G.U.+ isn't cannon, right?

No. In the canon, the Dummy Factor seems to have been destroyed. Besides, it's pretty clear it's only going to be explored in GU+. I don't see a human Cubia popping up in the canon.